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200NL AA vs weird turn bet.

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  1. #1

    Default 200NL AA vs weird turn bet.

    Not much in the way of reads against this guy. He hasn't made a whole lot of noise since I've been at the table, so should I push or fold?


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    Table Damman, 25 Apr 2006 4:56 PM ET
    Seat 1: Chigley ($241 in chips)
    Seat 2: mrnolimit7 ($304.55 in chips)
    Seat 7: jharbi61 ($63.20 in chips)
    Seat 8: klaus1947 ($205.60 in chips)
    Seat 10: TheBabyEater ($369.50 in chips)
    ANTES/BLINDS
    jharbi61 posts blind ($1), klaus1947 posts blind ($2).

    PRE-FLOP

    TheBabyEater gets [ AC,AH ]

    TheBabyEater bets $8, Chigley folds, mrnolimit7 folds, jharbi61 calls $7, klaus1947 calls $6.

    FLOP [board cards 6H,4D,KH ]
    jharbi61 checks, klaus1947 bets $10, TheBabyEater bets $30, jharbi61 folds, klaus1947 calls $20.

    TURN [board cards 6H,4D,KH,2D ]
    klaus1947 bets $70,
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  2. #2
    I know you don't much to go on, but it seems to me that you could rule out 22, and almost just about pretty much rule out KK, as well as 2pr/strt junk. That doesn't leave a helluva lot that's beating you.
    Might help to know if he is a set hunter, but I think that he's AK here and incline to push.

    This may sound hella foolish, but in the absence of other relevant info, the idea that he's bumping 60 yo (Klaus1947) kind of tips it.
  3. #3
    Without reads, I'm not folding here. Pushing or calling are both valid options. I probably just push.
  4. #4
    I too was seriously thinking AK at best by the way it was played. Nope, he had the nuts. Yes, thats right, THE nuts.

    If I pay these crappy kind of hands every time in this spot, am I just handing out implied odds? I think I should have raised more on the flop at least.
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    I dunno about AK being the best he could have. His bet on the turn, to me said "I know you have AK, and I've got that beat so I want you to come over the top for all your chips RIGHT NOW"

    Its exactly like I would probably play 44 or 66 in this spot. Keep in mind I suck at shorthanded.
  6. #6
    I saw that and I immediately thought SCs. Consistent with both PF and flop play. The $70 turn, while it seemed weird to me at first glance, does work. If you were bluff-raising the weak flop bet, you'd be hard-pressed to call any bet. If you actually had a strong hand on the flop raise, you'd either call or raise that bet. (I don't think a set makes this play).

    A villain CR on the turn would probably raise flags. Other than this bet, I think the only other option villian has on the turn is to check-call, and lead out the river.
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