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NL 100: JJ with lots of draws

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  1. #1
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    Default NL 100: JJ with lots of draws

    Opp is a true fish, calling a lot of prf and flop bets. I'm especially in doubt about my river play, hows my line?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB ($51.65)
    UTG ($64.49)
    Hero ($94.50)
    Button ($77.20)
    SB ($241.51)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.

    Flop: ($9) 8, T, Q (2 players)
    SB bets $1, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $7.

    Turn: ($25) A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB calls $15.

    River: ($55) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $20, SB raises to $64.94, Hero calls $44.94.

    Final Pot: $184.88
  2. #2
    Fish or not, I check behind on the turn and take my free card. No need to inflate the pot until we know where we stand. River: With the Kh out there you have to ask yourself what villain is chasing (or slowplaying). I'd like this bet a lot more with the K in my hand. Checking behind solves that problem.
  3. #3
    Hm, I think the key in this hand is trying to find the right balance between pot control and betting for value.

    On the one hand, I feel tempted to keep the pot small on the turn, checking behind. On the other hand, many nice draws and setting your opp up to pay you off makes me want to bet too.

    I like your line, although it seems you might have run into the king. I think your play is +EV though, but I'm really too inexperienced to make that call with any faith.
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    I would check the turn and with that river card call any bet.
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    I'd have checked the river, no reason to put in another $65 into the pot when you could have found out where you stood for free.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if villian had AK or KK (with K of hearts).
  6. #6
    Pot control 101. The turn is crucial for committment. When you have a lot of outs with a hand that may be behind, you check behind. You hacked this hand bad. I hope you held up, but I doubt it. I think you were all about a semi bluff line on the turn, but you failed to see your minimal fold equity.
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    Villain Kh Qx ? Makes the most sense. Can you post the results?
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    i think you need to check the turn. i dont think your bet really has a purpose... were you trying to get him to fold a queen? were you value betting the best hand?

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