4 Hands from $25NL - Unsure of some of the decisions

[andy-akb]

Alright, today was my last day at $25NL, tomorrow Im moving up to $50NL, but there were a few hands Im not sure if I had the right idea behind.


Hand 1:

Raise in MP with 99, 2 callers.

Flop comes T high with 2 to a flush, there is a check and then a bet of $0.50 into a $5 pot. My question is not about the fold to the reraise, but my original raise. Im often in a position where I have a marginal hand [2nd pair] where I raised preflop and in a multiway pot on the flop somebody makes an incredibly weak bet. Should I be raising these in multiway pots? Calling? Folding? Im not sure how to go about it, if I do raise, should I raise it closer to the flop? What is the "standard" play for this?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($31.50)
MP1 ($18.40)
MP2 ($24.25)
MP3 ($5.69)
Hero ($25.60)
Button ($25.75)
SB ($20.45)
BB ($18.65)
UTG ($13.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $1.40, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5) 4, T, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.5, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, UTG+1 raises to $8.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $16.50


Hand2:

Raise AK in MP, get 1 call. The caller is 27/0/1.5 over only 50 hands

Flop comes Ace high, and I lead for a little less than the pot, villain calls. I check the turn and he checks behind, river comes 8h, only hand that helps is JT or 88 which are both very unlikely. Villain checks and I make what I think is a value bet. Should I just check behind here? What should my criteria be for when to check behind?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 ($3.29)
CO ($44.12)
Button ($31.36)
SB ($21.33)
BB ($25.15)
UTG ($20.59)
UTG+1 ($19.70)
UTG+2 ($26.70)
MP1 ($26.66)
Hero ($32.77)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, K. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.25, UTG+2 folds.

Flop: ($3.60) A, Q, 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls $3.

Turn: ($9.60) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($9.60) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 calls $4.

Final Pot: $17.60


Hand 3:

Make a set on the flop of a 4way pot, one person makes a smallish bet and I call hoping to get a few other calls in behind me, and if not then there really arent any draws on this board except for a gutshot straight. Is this always a raise, or is overcalling fine?

Turn comes Q, villain bets, I raise he calls. River brings a 9, he bets and I call. The 9 completed a few straights, but thats pretty doubtful. Should I have raised here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 ($25.45)
CO ($26.75)
Button ($24.20)
SB ($27.30)
BB ($26.03)
Hero ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($27.65)
MP1 ($19.05)
MP2 ($13.56)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 6. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) T, 4, 6 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.66, Hero calls $0.66, MP1 folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($2.32) Q (2 players)
BB bets $1.04, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $2.96.

River: ($10.32) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $4.24, Hero calls $4.24.

Final Pot: $18.80


Hand 4:

I make top two out of the blinds in a 6 way pot, SB checks and I make a PSB hoping to discourage any draws, there are 2 calls and then a checkraise which I called and so did the other two. Should I have raised this? I most likely have the best hand here, but dont know how much pressure this hand can handle in a pot that is quickly building.

Anyways I called and then the turn brought a 5s giving another flush draw [AQs, etc.] and the checkraiser from the flop leads for less than half the pot, I folded expecting the other two to call and probably a big raise. My question really is this, how far should I be willing to go with a hand like this?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($13.25)
MP2 ($30.59)
MP3 ($24.70)
CO ($27)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($25.50)
BB ($4.60)
Hero ($32.90)
UTG+1 ($27.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.10. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: ($1.50) Q, 3, T (7 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.45, UTG+1 calls $1.45, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.45, Button folds, SB raises to $4.24, Hero calls $2.79, UTG+1 calls $2.79, MP3 calls $2.79.

Turn: ($18.46) 5 (5 players)
SB bets $7, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls $7, MP3 calls $7.

River: ($39.46) 8 (4 players)
SB bets $5.2, UTG+1 calls $5.20, SB calls $8.01, UTG+1 calls $8.01.

Final Pot: $65.88

[jackvance]

hand 1: In a 3-way pot I call this down. There is "slowplay risk" and I don't even have TP.. depends on your opponents though, if they don't slowplay often then I raise too. The main benefit from calling is that you can extract value from weaker hands that you would have folded out with a raise/bet on the flop.

hand 2: it seems a bit inconsistent.. do you think you're ahead or not? If you think that, raise the turn again. If not, why value bet the river?

hand 3: weird line by villain to bet half the pot after being raised on the turn?! I'd say raise but I can't blame you for calling, I think I'd call too just to be on the safe side here.

hand 4: I'd push the flop after SB's raise. If one of em has 33 then pray for your 4 outs.

[Muxy]

Hand 1:

I limp for the set, Set it and forget it.

Hand 2:

I don't check the turn, I bet again. and check-check river or bet and fold to a raise.

Hand 3:

Raise flop, turn g00t, river fine i guess.

[martindcx1e]

hand 1: In a 3-way pot I call this down. There is "slowplay risk" and I don't even have TP.. depends on your opponents though, if they don't slowplay often then I raise too. The main benefit from calling is that you can extract value from weaker hands that you would have folded out with a raise/bet on the flop.

calling this down with any regularity is chip-spewing i'm pretty sure.

[donnybaker]

hand 1: standard

i am convinced that these weak flop bets (1-2x bb) are a form of weak blocking bet. The opp is saying "I know you're just going to c-bet, but I caught a piece of this and I don't think you did. Now if you just call it i know you missed and will bet you out on the turn." The raise says that you're still ahead. I might have raised a little more, but that's about it.

The weak flop bet may also mean I have a monster I want to be raised, but we already know we're folding to a re-raise so screw it.

Hand 2: jeez i hate these incredibly passive players. anyway, he's loose/passive preflop so he could have anything. I'd bet again on the turn, 1/2-3/4 pot to get more money out of the flush draw. On the river I will bet or check behind. It depends on how I feel. I might check behind because if I am raised I have to fold to AQ/set. I don't hate the bet though, it looks like a busted flush draw or a weak ace.

Hand 3: I don't hate the call on the flop, but man this seems to burn me every time. I like to make a small raise ($1.5) and start building the pot. but waiting to the turn to raise is fine too.
I think I'm raising this river. No flushys and the only str8s are KJ, 87, J8. I'm thinking BB shows 2 pr (BB special).

Hand 4: Oh that hurts. I think you need some reads for this one. There's too many people in. HU I might RR. I don't know, now that I think about it, if most of the opps were idiots i might just push here. the flush draws might call. This is why unraised pots suck. Jeez TT, 33, and QQ are the only hand's that beat you on the flop. He could even have the same hand as you or T3 Q3. I'm starting to lean towards reraising the flop but calling folding the turn is ok too, 33 isn't too unlikely here.

[martindcx1e]

Hand 4

I do not think folding the turn with top two to a < 1/2 pot sized bet on a non-threatening board is acceptable. I'd probably push over the flop c/r.

[donnybaker]

Hand 4

I do not think folding the turn with top two to a < 1/2 pot sized bet on a non-threatening board is acceptable. I'd probably push over the flop c/r.

yeah I think so too. if he shows 33 then gg. Interesting hand though.

[jackvance]

calling this down with any regularity is chip-spewing i'm pretty sure.

Sensible bets ofcourse.

[Turska]

1.) I would raise only 2 its 4x Utg raise. I fold at reraise too.

2.) I would bet the turn 1/2 pot, if call check river fold to significant action.

3.) I would play the same, str is always possible.

4.) Tough hand, I think if there is 2 possibilities. Top Pair and afraid fl so big raise. If I had set here I would smooth call and act if no heart will hit the board. So I am not sure about set here, it could be he has FL/STr draw here. I think I could push here. After flop. If he makes his hand so be it.

[givememyleg]

1 - Looks fine except I wouldn't raise quite as much pf with 99.
2 - I don't understand checking behind on the turn then betting the river. I think I would have done this backwards.. betting the turn and checking behind on the river.
3 - Raise flop. Get all your chips into the middle with a set.
4 - I don't understand your fold. I would have probably pushed the flop for one. And a non scare card hit the turn, so I would push there also.

[EricE]

Hand 4: Push the turn or 3x raise the bet.

[tcpj4]

I think calling the flop in hand 1 is pretty terrible. You're going to give him 11:1 pot odds to catch up to you? The only hands you're 'extracting value' from would be 55, 77, and 88. The rest either have you drawing to 2 outs or are getting huge odds to catch up (78 with a gutshot would be a profitable bet for UTG+1). Find out where you stand, the raise was goot. btw, before the flop I simply limp and look for a set, as played, raise the flop.

In hand 2, I bet the turn if you think UTG+1 is loose and will call with a weaker ace (AT, A8, AJ, tons of 25nl players will limp/call with those types of shit aces). If he's tight, I would check behind like you did. River is fine.

Hand 3, raise the flop, to ~1.5 probably. River is ok, I guess. By the bet sizes, it looks like BB is a typical donkey and would probably call a river raise with any two pair, but a higher set is a possibility too. Reads.