Weak or good fold?

[EricE]

Hand #325019092 at table: Table TH 543
Started: Wed Jun 07 19:50:14 2006

Hero is UTG with 107.40
SB is with 130.75

BB posts the large blind 1.00
SB posts the small blind 0.50

Hero: :Ks:, :Kc:

Pre-flop:

Hero: Raise 4.00
5 Folds
Button: Call 4.00
SB: Raise 10.00
BB: Fold
Hero: Raise 25.00
Button: Fold
SB: Call 25.00

Flop :Qs: :Td:

SB: Bet 24.00
Hero: Fold

What do you put him on?

[AHiltz]

AQ, AT, QQ, TT
40%, 10%, 40%, 10%

His call and not raising pf usually negates AA.

[Bear Bones]

This is very read dependent. Any info on villain?

without a read this could be AK on a draw making a blocking bet to
JJ betting for info with a slightly less than 1/2 pot bet or AA/QQ/TT looking to get value. WIthout a read and having position I call this and evaluate the turn card and action or push.

[EricE]

AQ, AT, QQ, TT
40%, 10%, 40%, 10%

His call and not raising pf usually negates AA.

You really think he would call 25xbb bet PF with anything less than a made hand? I think SBs range is AA-QQ here. AA may push but if he does I am folding PF. As such, it could be AA calling for deception.

[biondino]

QQ or TT. AA (or KK) bets bigger on the flop I think.

[EricE]

QQ or TT. AA (or KK) bets bigger on the flop I think.

Maybe but there is no real need. The pot is 50xbb so we are getting it all in pretty easy by the river. You think this is a weak fold then?

[Rondavu]

Weak fold IMO

[Lukie]

AQ, AT, QQ, TT
40%, 10%, 40%, 10%

His call and not raising pf usually negates AA.

You really think he would call 25xbb bet PF with anything less than a made hand? I think SBs range is AA-QQ here. AA may push but if he does I am folding PF. As such, it could be AA calling for deception.

If you think this is his range, why is there even a decision? Easiest fold ever.

[Lukie]

AQ, AT, QQ, TT
40%, 10%, 40%, 10%

His call and not raising pf usually negates AA.

cmon, do you really think there's a 10% chance he has AT here?

[EricE]

Weak fold IMO

Psychologically I needed a winning session after losing 8 straight buy-ins with no winning sessions in-between. I am happy with the decision based on that.

So what is your hand range for him here and what is your move on the turn?

[AHiltz]

AQ, AT, QQ, TT
40%, 10%, 40%, 10%

His call and not raising pf usually negates AA.

cmon, do you really think there's a 10% chance he has AT here?

After the donkish shit I've seen at Prima today, yup, I do think it's in his range. I might even move it to 15%.

[Bear Bones]

AQ, 10%
AJ or AT, 5%
QQ, 25%
TT, 5%
AK,, 25%,
JJ,20%,
AA,10%

His call and not raising pf usually negates AA.

Any reads at all? Anyone who is thinking is laying down AJ/AT and probably AQ and TT on the preflop re-raise. I agree with AHiltz that AA probably pushes preflop. This looks like AK or JJ missed and trying to take down the pot or QQ, hit the mother load and is betting for value. I think you are probably good here. I think a call and push a turn check or push this flop.

[EricE]

At the time of the hand I had no real reads. I had been there a little over an orbit.

After the hand I watched him real close. I noticed he won most hands with aggression. So much so that if I got into a hand I was winning I could check and expect him to hang himself. With that read the flop above probably becomes a call.

[Miffed22001]

weak 3 bet with KK, id have raised so that i wasnt folding any flop anyway or so that it was all going in preflop.

I think you can fold that flop safely enough however id have bloated the pot to the point where i wasnt folding it anyway.