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    Default 25 NL 6max. 77. PLaying without a set.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($28.55)
    UTG ($29.50)
    MP ($13)
    Button ($25.40)
    SB ($31.75)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    3 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.75.

    Flop: ($2) 3, K, 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.6, SB calls $2.10.

    Turn: ($7.20) 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($7.20) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

    Final Pot: $11.20

    it doesnt seem like he would lead a 5 on teh flop
    i guess he could check with a 9 on the turn.

    is it a good call?
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    I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call. It's hard not to call though because you just want to see wtf he had, but I think his bet is too small to be a bluff, I'd be more likely to call if he lead out for the pot or something. A better line is to call the flop then raise the turn for a free showdown, or to raise flop bet turn if you think he is on a draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call.
    you need to stop saying stuff like this, its not 'clearly -ev'

    you played it fine vq, although sometimes i fire again on turn. they would have to be very vey passive for me to fold this on river.
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    It's marginal, but I call, if not for anything, then just for future reads/info. But I think a 5 is certainly likely, he tried to take the flop, but your call slowed him down. The check on the turn gave him confidence in his 5 again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call.
    you need to stop saying stuff like this, its not 'clearly -ev'

    you played it fine vq, although sometimes i fire again on turn. they would have to be very vey passive for me to fold this on river.
    I've got thousands of hands at 25-50nl, and this line is KJ like 98% of the time. It might not be as clear cut of a fold as I said, but I can't imagine us being good here very often at all, I think maybe it's a 10-1 shot.
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    I agree with aislephive, this is going to be a K the majority of the time.

    Reads could change a lot though, do you have any?
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    thats a 5 or a busted flush draw as often as its a K at 25nl. if the second card on the flop was an 8, then you could make a pretty good case for folding the river.

    i would be more worried about the str8 having hit than him having a K. if he has the K9, then it makes more sense (trying to trap/CR with 2 pr), but not a KJ. either way, i call.
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    I think Aislephive is right - it's a weak king, and only a massive raise on the river is going to make him consider folding.

    It *could* be 66-99 but I don't think so. I don't think it's a 5 as a 5 folds to the flop raise. I also don't think a missed flush bets like this at $25. K9-KJ is practically inevitable.
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    I think villain has a weak K. He called the flop raise then slowed down on turn. Heros check gave him confidence to bet river.

    vcq, wut was the result?
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    it wasnt KJo

    or a 66-99
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    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    it wasnt KJo

    or a 66-99
    43/54?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    Quote Originally Posted by vqc
    it wasnt KJo

    or a 66-99
    43/54?
    nope.
    the hand in question was kinda oddly played.
    threw me for a loop.
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    AA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcatdog
    AA?
    this oculd go on forever

    he had AK
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    I'd be more likely to call if he lead out for the pot or something.
    sklanksy say no!

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