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  1. #1

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    MP1 is 43/9 over a small sample, CO is 33/6 and a fish. There's been lots of 1BB preflop raising going on (which I'm seeing a lot of at the Party Monster tables) so I'm pretty sure MP1 has AK/overpair when he pops it to 4X. What's your line?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($42.79)
    Button ($296.20)
    SB ($77.14)
    Hero ($192.85)
    UTG ($179.15)
    MP1 ($100.65)
    MP2 ($75.50)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, T. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
    1 fold, MP1 raises to $4, 1 fold, CO calls $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.

    Flop: ($12.50) 3, 8, J (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $7, CO calls $7, Hero ???
  2. #2
    Interesting hand.

    Option 1: Push -- we are probably a favorite. will MP1 play for stacks here??

    Option 2: Raise -- and call a push.

    Option 3: Call -- and see what the turn brings.

    (I would have led the flop for $9)

    I probably would raise to $20. Take control of the action.
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    checkraise flop
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    Good, I'm on the right page...

    Flop: ($12.50) 3, 8, J (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $7, CO calls $7, Hero raises to $21, MP1 calls $89.65 (All-In), CO calls $31.79 (All-In), Hero calls $75.65.
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    make it 28
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    i dont even think, i just c/rallin or lead then 3bet all in. You know he isnt folding AA so get him in while he cant fold.
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    miff stop betting 12x the pot thx
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    This is why I'm check/calling here in a fishy action game.
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    Getting 32-55% equity in a three way ai is a great result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Getting 32-55% equity in a three way ai is a great result.
    Check stack sizes, a lot of the money went in heads-up. Looks like most of it went in vs a big pair.

    Board: Tc 8d 3d
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 48.8384 % 48.84% 00.00% { Td9d }
    Hand 2: 51.1616 % 51.16% 00.00% { JJ+ }

    I used to play hands like this all the time when I played in the super-fishy BoDog games. I've since wised up a bit and realized that they play so aweful on late streets and pay-off so much that flipping coins w/ over-lay doesn't get maximum value and causes lots of swings.
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    Just to flip some cards up:

    903 games 0.061 secs 14,803 games/sec

    Board: 3d 8d Jc
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 51.8272 % 51.83% 00.00% { Td9d }
    Hand 2: 33.1118 % 33.11% 00.00% { KcKs }
    Hand 3: 15.0609 % 15.06% 00.00% { AdJs }
  12. #12
    Question is are you better off putting your Sklansky bucks in the bank on the flop or will your terrible opponents give you far more value on the turn + river?

    Also, over half of the money behind went in heads-up.
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    This is why I'm check/calling here in a fishy action game.
    If we just call here and the turn's a brick, we're check/calling again, right? Are we folding to a push?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    If we just call here and the turn's a brick, we're check/calling again, right? Are we folding to a push?
    It depends. It should be a very straight forward decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    If we just call here and the turn's a brick, we're check/calling again, right? Are we folding to a push?
    It depends. It should be a very straight forward decision.
    I'm thinking that I'd have a hard time calling anything over a PSB if I miss on the turn, but that doesn't mean making my decisions easier is a good reason for getting it all-in on the flop either. I have to chew on this one for a while.
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    i think a big raise is the best standard play. With reads you can extract much more ev from just calling.
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    Is this PF call standard?
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    not standard but def. plus ev if you can play postflop
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    Standard for me here is to call.

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