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  1. #1

    Default river value bet decision

    This was hard for me to decide to bet the river, then harder to decide how much since I was low on time. What do you think of this line? Just push river? Pot flop and turn?

    Villain is loose passive, around 60-70% vpip, but typically folds flop without a draw or 2nd pair. I'm tag. It was kind of tough since some of his draw range made a str8 on the river, and he is the type to check/raise after this action.


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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $81.40
    CO: $118.50
    hero: $100
    SB: $17.65
    BB: $185.35

    Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is Button with J J
    UTG folds, CO calls, hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls.

    Flop: 9 6 J ($11.5, 2 players)
    CO checks, hero bets $9, CO calls.

    Turn: 8 ($29.5, 2 players)
    CO checks, hero bets $24, CO calls.

    River: Q ($77.5, 2 players)
    CO checks, hero bets $25 ($37 left after this)
  2. #2
    Looks fine. In general Villain is not checking the river often if he hit his hand because they don't want you to check behind. But you say he will check-raise in this spot so maybe you should check behind since you don't want him to push over.
  3. #3
    thanks..really was not sure about it.

    And I haven't seen him do it, but it's just one of those spots it would suck to be check/raised, and I was thinking that loose/passives are usually the types to do it on the river, especially when I've bet big in the previous streets.
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    If you think he has a tendancy to c/r rivers even when bluffing, then check behind. If not, this is fine.
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    that makes sense. I didn't know his particular tendency, but think the norm for the river, even with loose passive stats, is like r8ed wrote- to lead with the str8, not check/raise...so it probably is best to bet again, maybe even more then 25.

    and for results- villain called and showed Qc7c.
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    Yeah without any reads, your valuebet is fine. Any bigger valuebet will not get called by a worse hand enough on this board.
    Note that your small river bet screams weakness and a good tricky player will recognize this and sometimes try to c/r bluff you out of the pot (and you will have to fold) - but against the standard unknown at these stakes you'll be fine.
  7. #7
    haha yea, against someone like h@llingol this river would've been a million times trickier...I <3 100nl fish.

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