25NL Nut Flush draw 4way

[cobere]

Question #1: Reraise preflop?
Question #2: As played, what do you do with all the action in front on the flop?

I'm going over hand history so I don't recall what reads I had or what the HUD stats were. The flop action was bangbangbang, so I know I did not have the mental gears turning trying to think what everybody might like about this flop. When I went through it tonight in retrospect without looking at the results, I did pretty good putting people on ranges. Question still remains, do you fold the flop, call this and evaluate the turn, or punch it?



FullTiltPoker Game #885288240: $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em
CO ($19.25)
Hero ($63.10)
SB ($19.15)
BB ($45)
UTG ($38.65)
UTG+1 ($49.50)
MP1 ($102.10)
MP2 ($7.40)
MP3 ($31.45)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Hero is on the button with [Ah Qh]

2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls but promises to raise next time, SB calls, BB calls.

*** FLOP *** [8c Kh 6h] (pot $5)
SB bets $5
BB folds
MP1 raises to $20
CO calls $18.25, and is all in
Hero ?????

[strawman]

So the pot is 48.25 when it gets to you. So assuming the SB calls your implied odds on the flop are a little over 3-1. But since you can't guarantee the small blind calls you are only getting a little under 2.5-1 here. Either way unless you can extract something extra if a heart hits on the turn calling isn't much of an option here. Additionally some of your hearts here might not be outs. It wouldn't surprise me if MP1 has a set of 6s here. And if that assumption is correct your pushing idea is even worse than calling.

[Miffed22001]

sbs not folding.

push imo, its prob slightly -ev but great for shania.

[strawman]

sbs not folding.

push imo, its prob slightly -ev but great for shania.

Maybe, but she hasn't had a hit in years. And even she knows better than to push a flush draw against a set and MP1 is playing this like a flopped set of 6s or 8s- min raise preflop and 2x pot reraise on the flop.

[TerryToma]

If you all had 25$ stacks it would be a call. However your stack is so deep and you are covered. To be a pessimist, someone could have a lower flush draw taking away 2 of your outs, and someone could have a set, taking away even more outs. I think I fold and look for a better spot. Let them fight over your 1$.

By the way, I do not like reraising preflop with AQs. In general you are looking to improve/build a pot, rather than isolate the pre-flop raiser.

[cobere]

Hero raises to $62.10, and is all in
SB folds
MP1 has 15 seconds left to act
MP1 calls $42.10

Hero shows [Ah Qh]
MP1 shows [8h 7h]
CO shows [Kc Kd]
*** TURN *** [8c Kh 6h] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [8c Kh 6h 4s] [9s]
Hero shows Ace King high
MP1 shows a pair of Eights
MP1 wins the side pot ($87.70) with a pair of Eights
CO shows three of a kind, Kings
CO wins main pot ($61.75) with three of a kind, Kings
Hero is sitting out