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I think I got rivered...fold with 3:1?

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  1. #1

    Default I think I got rivered...fold with 3:1?

    First orbit, no reads. I felt like I was only beating a bluff or a really oddly played pocket pair on the river.

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    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    5 players
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    Stack sizes:
    hero: $101.90
    CO: $107
    Button: $76.50
    SB: $70.30
    BB: $97

    Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is UTG with Q Q
    hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: 7 2 2 ($8.5, 2 players)
    BB bets $3, hero raises to $10, BB calls.

    Turn: 5 ($28.5, 2 players)
    BB checks, hero bets $20, BB calls.

    River: 7 ($68.5, 2 players)
    BB bets $35, hero calls.

    Results:
    Final pot: $138.5
  2. #2
    I think I call here against an unknown. I would expect to lose a lot of the time but Im sure you will see busted clubs\smaller overpair here > 25%. If he has us beat it means that he called a flop raise and then check called the turn (with two pos flush draws) with either TP or a slowplayed trips. The only hands that make sense for a (not tricky) good player is 77,22. Also people probably wont try to bluff you after that hand if you call
  3. #3
    I hear you but his river bet size seemed like a "call me my hand actually got better" bet, but I guess like you said the worse hands add to at least 25% without a better read...and maybe it is good for metagame.

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    Your loosing, lolololololololololol
    When he goes from passive calling station to Mr. Active Betting Guy on the river, I fold even getting 3:1. Action on this hand does not make me feel like I'm winning 1/4 of the time.
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    that's what I was thinking after the hand - I expect maybe to be ahead 10-15%...anyone else think it's worth a call though?
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    I dont think the chances of him bluffing the river with a busted club draw (or an overpair for that matter) are very big. His bet size is odd for a bluff, looks like a valuebet. I fold this mofo because a hand like 7x (or even 2x) fits perfectly into his range.

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