Top set, with LAG

[Anosmic]

Thoughts? Opponent is horribly LAG.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($20.80)
Button ($31.63)
SB ($20.20)
BB ($59.23)
Hero ($38.30)
UTG+1 ($23.55)
MP1 ($7.79)
MP2 ($56.77)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($5.10) Q, 4, 5 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.5, MP2 raises to $5, CO folds, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($15.10) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $6, Hero raises to $14, MP2 calls $8.

River: ($43.10) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $18, MP2 calls $18.

Final Pot: $79.10

[Halv]

Bet bigger on flop and turn, we are deep and want to get as much as possible in the pot before scare cards hit. I probably 3-bet flop and lead turn, keeping it simple.

I don't like the turn c/r, his flop minraise is often a flush draw that will take a free card.

And finally, if he has A3/63 I'm paying.

[Pelion]

make the river a little bigger aswell. He'll call at least half pot if he calls anything.

[Anosmic]

Actually, that was all I had (apparently I hadn't slid my slider all the way right because it wasn't all in, I could have bet $18.05).

[Miffed22001]

river is a push. bet more on turn to allow river to be a half-pot size push.

[Anosmic]

river is a push. bet more on turn to allow river to be a half-pot size push.

Erm? So like I did then?

[Anosmic]

Bet bigger on flop and turn, we are deep and want to get as much as possible in the pot before scare cards hit. I probably 3-bet flop and lead turn, keeping it simple.

I don't like the turn c/r, his flop minraise is often a flush draw that will take a free card.

And finally, if he has A3/63 I'm paying.

The more I think about it the more I see that this play was completely stupid.
There's a good chance of a semi-bluff here and calling the re-raise and checking the turn is just as likely to give away a free card as entice a bet.

The thing is if I bet more on the flop doesn't that mean that my c-bets also have to be the same size more or less?

What would be a good 3-bet here? $10? $15?

Result was that he had A3. Which sucked.

[vqc]

i 3 bet the flop and dont see any reason as to why we wouldnt.

[Halv]

The thing is if I bet more on the flop doesn't that mean that my c-bets also have to be the same size more or less?

This is why we don't want to c-bet bluff in multiway, drawheavy pots. In general I like to vary both my (bluffing) cbets and "legitimate" bets from half pot to full pot depending on the opponents/flop texture.

What would be a good 3-bet here? $10? $15?

I'd say 15$. From there on it should not be difficult to get AI on later streets.

Result was that he had A3. Which sucked.

I think a horrible LAG will show down much lesser holdings here very often. Turn action might indicate a monster, but I don't think there is any way we can get away from this hand. We got all in with top set on a relatively safe board and should be happy.

Remember to take appropriate notes on him for the next time he minraises a gutshot on a twotone flop.

[drtofu66]

Result was that he had A3. Which sucked.

Just curious-- at least? Sad that he stumbled into the disguised part of his draw but at least he had a real draw if that's the hand he had.

[zook]

i 3 bet the flop and dont see any reason as to why we wouldnt.

Me too, especially against an aggressive opp.

[takesix]

I like the 1/2 pot flop bet if you were expecting a re-raise to push over top of that.

[Anosmic]

Result was that he had A3. Which sucked.

Just curious-- at least? Sad that he stumbled into the disguised part of his draw but at least he had a real draw if that's the hand he had.

Hee hee. A3s? Are you kidding?
We don't need no stinking sooted cards here.

I like the 1/2 pot flop bet if you were expecting a re-raise to push over top of that.

Yes. And I thought I was safe that I could just call. Didn't appreciate the danger.

[drtofu66]

Hee hee. A3s? Are you kidding?
We don't need no stinking sooted cards here.

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