Flush draw lots of dead money

[chewbaka]

Table "Tree Top" (real money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: serenerosa ($42.25 in chips)
Seat 2: chewbaka8 ($30.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Manchester_U ($23.85 in chips)
Seat 4: sourpower ($25.00 in chips)
Seat 5: lil' T ($27.95 in chips)
Seat 6: johsun ($39.87 in chips)
Seat 7: NellDrum ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Firedude436 ($55.10 in chips)
Seat 9: paddygoeasy ($12.75 in chips)
Manchester_U: Post Small Blind ($0.10)
sourpower: Post Big Blind ($0.25)
Dealing...
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Jc ]
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Qc ]
lil' T : Call ($0.25)
johsun : Raise ($1.10)
NellDrum: Fold
Firedude436: Fold
paddygoeasy: Call ($1.10)
serenerosa: Fold
chewbaka8: Call ($1.10)
Manchester_U: Fold
sourpower: Raise ($4)
lil' T : Fold
johsun : Call ($3.15)
paddygoeasy: Call ($3.15)
chewbaka8: Call ($3.15)
*** FLOP *** : [ Ac 9d 7c ]
sourpower: Bet ($20.75)
johsun : Call ($20.75)
paddygoeasy: Fold
chewbaka8 ??????????? A call is surely ok here? corrects potodds and lots of dead money...

[freechus9]

Fold to the reraise PF. Implied odds are no good. I am a poo poo head.

[chewbaka]

Yup I realized that the PF call was stupid

But as played, calling 20.75 on a 79.50 pot is correct pot odds or am I missing something here?

[ensign_lee]

Once you get to the flop, yes. Pot odds decry call, or just push.

[givememyleg]

Gambooooooool!

[freechus9]

Gambooooooool!

I don't get it, this is clearly a -EV call. Can someone explain why it's not?

[benny999]

Gambooooooool!

I don't get it, this is clearly a -EV call. Can someone explain why it's not?

the pot odds are lower than the odds to hit the flush (35%).

[freechus9]

Gambooooooool!

I don't get it, this is clearly a -EV call. Can someone explain why it's not?

the pot odds are lower than the odds to hit the flush (35%).

Got it. Forgot about the all in part.

[chewbaka]

Lets get ready to gamble!!!!!!

Table "Dolphin Point" (real money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: chewbaka8 ($29.55 in chips)
Seat 2: highriser009 ($25.00 in chips)
Seat 3: bennythekid1 ($12.52 in chips)
Seat 4: SylusStone ($14.55 in chips)
Seat 5: DonnaDonk ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 6: coolstewy ($48.65 in chips)
Seat 7: Duffman36 ($26.60 in chips)
Seat 8: jasonfast34 ($17.12 in chips)
Seat 9: wyldog ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 10: billyc2 ($6.98 in chips)
jasonfast34: Post Small Blind ($0.10)
wyldog : Post Big Blind ($0.25)
Dealing...
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Jd ]
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Ad ]
billyc2 : Call ($0.25)
chewbaka8: Raise ($0.50)
highriser009: Fold
bennythekid1: Raise ($0.75)
SylusStone: Fold
DonnaDonk: Fold
coolstewy: Fold
Duffman36: Call ($0.75)
jasonfast34: Fold
wyldog : Call ($0.50)
billyc2 : Call ($0.50)
chewbaka8: Call ($0.25)
*** FLOP *** : [ 9d 8d Qh ]
wyldog : Timed out
wyldog : Fold
billyc2 : Check
chewbaka8: Bet ($1.20)
bennythekid1: Raise ($11.77)
Duffman36: Raise ($22.34)
billyc2 : Fold
chewbaka8: Call ($21.14)
*** TURN *** : [ 9d 8d Qh ] [ 6d ]
chewbaka8: Bet ($6.46)
Duffman36: Call All-in ($3.51)
*** RIVER *** : [ 9d 8d Qh 6d ] [ 4d ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $36.16 | Side pot 1: $28.16 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 9d 8d Qh 6d 4d ]
chewbaka8 bet $29.55, collected $67.27, net +$37.72 (showed hand) [ Jd Ad ] (a
flush, ace high)
highriser009 didn't bet (folded)
bennythekid1 lost $12.52 (showed hand) [ Kd Qs ] (a flush, king high)
SylusStone didn't bet (folded)
DonnaDonk didn't bet (folded)
coolstewy didn't bet (folded)
Duffman36 lost $26.60 (showed hand) [ Qc Qd ] (a flush, queen high)
jasonfast34 lost $0.10 (folded)
wyldog lost $0.75 (folded)
billyc2 lost $0.75 (folded)

[DaHorror]

First one looks fine...second one is horrid all the way around...donk-raise oop preflop, donk-bet the flop, then call 'almost' allin on a draw...12 of your outs were clean but then you happened to be up against a set, so not really, but you might as well push the flop rather than call off most of your stack when you aren't folding on the turn...

[Beck]

I agree with Horror, horrible bet pre flop if you are going to raise, then raise. that is just ugly shit with not even that good of a starting hand especially OOP. raise 4-6 BB whenever you raise and stop fucking around. Your 1.20 bet on the flop is screaming flush draw to me. it is just asking me to re-raise you cause you are so week, and I do not want to give you pot odds on the flop.

the all in with this hand is -EV. dont do it anymore. all you have is 12 outs 4 tens and the 8 remaining diamonds. I wouold not consider the Jacks or Aces outs here. looks like you are going agains a High PP or maybe a set

[chewbaka]

Tyvm... points taken...

[nutsinho]

12 outs in a 3way pot is good...you guys are assholes

[chewbaka]

I think they had no problems with the pot odds, it was right on the money. 12 clean outs = 45% to hit.

However, there were flaws in how I played the hand (min raising OOP). I really dont mind the 1.20 so called donk bet on the flop..