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  1. #1

    Default Overpairs hands

    I've found a few leaks in my game recently...I like to build monster pots with the second best hand and for some reason I keep losing money like a mofo with overpairs so I know I must be doing something wrong

    Here's a few overpair hands from tonight...

    HAND 1
    No reads on this guy, he just sat down a few hands before...

    $0.05/$0.1 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - ***
    Seat 8 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 10: MrHub ( $9.9 )
    Seat 1: bmnk ( $11.1 )
    Seat 2: GNADS ( $9.95 )
    Seat 3: ireneman ( $13.71 )
    Seat 4: FatGaN ( $25.8 )
    Seat 5: jenjam34 ( $26.68 )
    Seat 6: ball024 ( $10 )
    Seat 8: kermit49 ( $13.65 )
    Seat 9: krrr ( $1.7 )
    krrr posts small blind [$0.05].
    MrHub posts big blind [$0.1].
    ball024 posts big blind [$0.1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to GNADS [ Kh Kc ]
    bmnk folds.
    GNADS raises [$0.5].
    ireneman folds.
    FatGaN folds.
    jenjam34 folds.
    ball024 calls [$0.4].
    kermit49 calls [$0.5].
    krrr folds.
    MrHub folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 2c, 10d ]
    GNADS bets [$1].
    ball024 calls [$1].
    kermit49 folds.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 10h ]
    GNADS bets [$1].
    ball024 raises [$2].
    GNADS calls [$1].
    ** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
    GNADS checks.
    ball024 bets [$2.9].

    GNADS grows some nuts and calls, or folds??

    HAND 2
    Villain is 29/5/3

    **$0.05/$0.1 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - ***
    Seat 7 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 10: MrHub ( $9.25 )
    Seat 1: bmnk ( $18.97 )
    Seat 2: GNADS ( $8.5 )
    Seat 3: ireneman ( $14.96 )
    Seat 4: FatGaN ( $26.95 )
    Seat 5: jenjam34 ( $24.38 )
    Seat 6: jjx21 ( $10.55 )
    Seat 7: MrsMacio ( $9.95 )
    Seat 8: kermit49 ( $14.9 )
    Seat 9: krrr ( $1.75 )
    kermit49 posts small blind [$0.05].
    krrr posts big blind [$0.1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to GNADS [ Qs Qc ]
    MrHub folds.
    bmnk folds.
    GNADS raises [$0.5].
    ireneman folds.
    FatGaN folds.
    jenjam34 folds.
    jjx21 folds.
    MrsMacio folds.
    kermit49 calls [$0.45].
    krrr folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 10c, Ah, 3d ]
    kermit49 checks.
    GNADS bets [$0.5].
    kermit49 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
    kermit49 checks.
    GNADS checks.
    ** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
    kermit49 bets [$1.2].
    GNADS ??
  2. #2
    1st:call
    2nd: fold

    Also, a small recommendation. I played 10NL for a decently long period of time. I would always raise at least 8x BB (80 cents) preflop. You will get callers with worse hands than you, and you'll actually isolate instead of getting 3-5 callers. Although in these examples you did isolate pretty well.
  3. #3
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    Hand1: Turn bet is bad. I lead for 2 and fold to a raise. If he calls, I c/f the river.

    Hand2: I bet more on the flop. As played, I fold the river.

    Raising to .5 is fine PF. I made it 5x BB +1BB per limper.
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  4. #4
    Hand 1 - What can you hope villain has....QQ? Fold river. Fold to raise on turn.
    Hand 2 - Check flop and look for cheap showdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Hand 2 - Check flop and look for cheap showdown.
    Are you kidding? If this isn't a prime spot to c-bet then IDK what is. In a headsup pot you have enourmous FE here by c-betting.
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Hand 2 - Check flop and look for cheap showdown.
    Are you kidding? If this isn't a prime spot to c-bet then IDK what is. In a headsup pot you have enourmous FE here by c-betting.
    villain has no real draw. a bet is mostly just called by an A and you fold out hands that you are way ahead of. read this and the thread that's linked in there as well as i think they both apply...

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=28142
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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by freechus9
    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Hand 2 - Check flop and look for cheap showdown.
    Are you kidding? If this isn't a prime spot to c-bet then IDK what is. In a headsup pot you have enourmous FE here by c-betting.
    There will be an argument over this hand until the world is over... but I will always say betting this flop is bad.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by givememyleg
    There will be an argument over this hand until the world is over...
    lol QFT. one way to balance it out is to not always c-bet when you hit an A high flop.
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  9. #9
    thanks for the feedback guys.

    Seriously though, this isn't funny anymore...KK is my biggest loser over 5k hands because of hands like this, someone please tell me I played this standard??

    No reads on villain, they just sat down. I'm only losing to sets, AA, A3,63 on the flop as far as I can tell so I wanted to get some cash in the middle, or was that a mistake as only sets and a flopped str8 would (most likely) call my big raise?

    $0.05/$0.1 Blinds No Limit Hold'em -
    Seat 10 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 10: primal30 ( $9.35 )
    Seat 1: ZEUS1043 ( $23.08 )
    Seat 2: rwyllie ( $8.3 )
    Seat 3: crisco1 ( $11.7 )
    Seat 4: wendy120 ( $8.6 )
    Seat 5: toonpaul ( $0.45 )
    Seat 6: cold1an ( $11.4 )
    Seat 7: Spider83 ( $10.75 )
    Seat 8: lp123 ( $4.85 )
    Seat 9: GNADS ( $8.75 )
    ZEUS1043 posts small blind [$0.05].
    rwyllie posts big blind [$0.1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to GNADS [ Ks Kc ]
    crisco1 folds.
    wendy120 calls [$0.1].
    toonpaul folds.
    cold1an folds.
    Spider83 folds.
    lp123 folds.
    GNADS raises [$0.6].
    primal30 folds.
    ZEUS1043 folds.
    rwyllie calls [$0.5].
    wendy120 calls [$0.5].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 4c, 2h ]
    rwyllie bets [$1].
    wendy120 calls [$1].
    GNADS raises [$4].
    rwyllie folds.
    wendy120 raises [$7].
    GNADS calls [$4].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]
    ** Summary **
    wendy120 shows [ Ac 9d ].
    GNADS shows [ Ks Kc ].
  10. #10
    that was just a bad beat. there's nothing you can do to change it. you got the money in with the best hand. you must raise on the flop. you played it fine.
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