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    Default Fantasy Football anyone?

    Hey I noticed that FTR had a fantasy football league.. and since FF is one of my greatest addictions, I'd like to be involved in this year's league...

    I'd even be happy setting it up... though I would very much like to do a live online draft, as the computer simulated ones are laughably bad.

    I'd like to set up at least a 12 team league (possibly deeper), w/ some of the standard scoring setups... Any interest out there?
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    We did have a cool league last year, it was a lot of fun.

    Hopefully we can do one this year too although I don't want to go with EA Sports again. Yahoo seemed to work fine for our basketball league, maybe we should consider them for football.
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    I would be more than happy to act as commish... set up league, collect money, whatever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    I would be more than happy to act as commish... set up league, collect money, whatever...
    Have you used yahoo before for fantasy? This year it would be cool if we could allow more players, what options do we have if we want to set up a league for 20 or 30 people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    I would be more than happy to act as commish... set up league, collect money, whatever...
    Have you used yahoo before for fantasy? This year it would be cool if we could allow more players, what options do we have if we want to set up a league for 20 or 30 people?
    20-30 people?? Holy crap! I'm not really sure what our options would be for that...

    I've used Yahoo a great deal, but never tried anything of that size before.. do you really think we could get that many people involved? Seeing as you and I are the only people interested (oh.. i suppose we do know for sure that Miffed is not interested... WHEW...) I wasn't sure.

    I'll do some investigating and see what I can come up with....
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    depending on the interest and buyin, I would play.

    Yahoo seemed to work fine.

    The only thing I would worry about is that once you get more than about 12 teams, the talent starts to get diluted....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    do you really think we could get that many people involved?
    Yes, I do. We could invite everyone that stayed active in last year's league. Also, we could promote it more on the site (like in the Community Forum which is more popular than this Sports Betting Forum).

    If ftr throws in prize money and we give people enough notice then I think we'll have a nice turnout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardsman1992
    The only thing I would worry about is that once you get more than about 12 teams, the talent starts to get diluted....
    Good point, do larger leagues make adjustments for this? I would think that in large leagues, fantasy teams wouldn't have to start as many players because of the dilution.

    If a large league doesn't work then maybe we could have several small leagues and then have the various league winners face off in a freeroll or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by cardsman1992
    The only thing I would worry about is that once you get more than about 12 teams, the talent starts to get diluted....
    Good point, do larger leagues make adjustments for this? I would think that in large leagues, fantasy teams wouldn't have to start as many players because of the dilution.

    If a large league doesn't work then maybe we could have several small leagues and then have the various league winners face off in a freeroll or something.
    The largest leagues go to 14-16 teams and usually have standard size teams.. utilizing depth and matchups is critical for many of those large teams. If we are concerned about diluted talent we could set up two conferences of 12 teams each that count as seperate universes of NFL players. So each conference would have an LT and LJ.. etc.. there is usually some interconference play, but mostly you just play against your own conference and then they meet up in the playoffs or something...
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    king, feel free to let me know if you want in, when I posted a month ago I guess it was to early and we didn't have enough interest. I know last year I had to bat people away we had so many people who wanted to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItDepends
    ItDepends,

    Everything looks cool with your league, I'm glad it is moving forward. Hopefully it will encourage people to have more football discussions than we did last year.

    Last time I checked your league requires each player to pay a $50 registration fee. Like last year, we should have at least one free league. We have room for more than one league in this community so I think we should keep things going in this thread for all the folks who want to play fantasy but don't want to invest the $50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by ItDepends
    ItDepends,

    Everything looks cool with your league, I'm glad it is moving forward. Hopefully it will encourage people to have more football discussions than we did last year.

    Last time I checked your league requires each player to pay a $50 registration fee. Like last year, we should have at least one free league. We have room for more than one league in this community so I think we should keep things going in this thread for all the folks who want to play fantasy but don't want to invest the $50.
    I'm sure there are plenty that would want to play both
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    I will play the free one.

    Someone stake me for ItDepends' league?
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    Quote Originally Posted by midas06
    I will play the free one.
    I'm in for the free one too.

    We need to decide on the commissioner. kingnat should confirm he can still do it otherwise someone else has to volunteer.

    Like ItDepends said, folks can play in both leagues so everyone interested in the free league should post here.

    Once things are set with the commissioner we need to decide on the software(I recommend yahoo), the format and the number of teams.
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    Well, I made a league on Yahoo but we can only do a max of 20 teams...

    I actually set it to 14 since we don't want a completely dilute league... but that could be adjusted.

    I also did some snooping around and haven't been able to find anything that allows tons of teams that doesn't charge something...

    www.rtsports.com has something we could set up divisions and such like I mentioned in an above post so we could do 30 teams there but it costs $90 JUST to do the league.

    I won't divulge the yahoo league id and such in case we find something better... Let me know what you guys think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    Well, I made a league on Yahoo but we can only do a max of 20 teams...
    Let's go with yahoo
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    Is 14 teams ok? If one gets filled up we could try to open a 2nd one...

    Thoughts?
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    king, don't go any more then 14. I mean you can only go so deep at RB. If you go over 14 I'd advise 2WR 1RB and 2-3 flex spots.

    Count me in on this league also
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    So it is settled, kingnat is the commissioner and we're doing a 14 team league on yahoo.

    How many players do we have so far kingnat?
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    From my count we have 5 so far... I'm PM people with the ID# and the password...

    Post here if you are interested in playing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    I would be more than happy to act as commish... set up league, collect money, whatever...
    Have you used yahoo before for fantasy? This year it would be cool if we could allow more players, what options do we have if we want to set up a league for 20 or 30 people?
    I'm in a keeper league that runs 20 owners. We used to have 30 but cut it back to 20. The way we do it is we run an AFC and an NFC conference with 10 owners in each (east and west divisions). Then in the end we play the AFC against the NFC for the superbowl. We even do interleague play just like the NFL.

    When we had 30 owners we had 3 divisions inside each conference.

    Just an idea for whoever asked how you could run that many owners.

    edit: Plus we used clones of all the players. Since we are a keeper league these clones do wonder into the same conference sometimes, because we allow trades of players and draft picks. But if you did run a setup like I detailed above in a redraft league then just use the clones in each conference and that way you have plenty of players for each draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabid Dog
    I'm in a keeper league that runs 20 owners. We used to have 30 but cut it back to 20. The way we do it is we run an AFC and an NFC conference with 10 owners in each (east and west divisions). Then in the end we play the AFC against the NFC for the superbowl. We even do interleague play just like the NFL.

    When we had 30 owners we had 3 divisions inside each conference.

    Just an idea for whoever asked how you could run that many owners.

    edit: Plus we used clones of all the players. Since we are a keeper league these clones do wonder into the same conference sometimes, because we allow trades of players and draft picks. But if you did run a setup like I detailed above in a redraft league then just use the clones in each conference and that way you have plenty of players for each draft.
    Interesting ideas, we'll have to consider these thoughts for next year.

    kingnat already setup a 14 team league on yahoo for this year. If we end up having more players interested then we might create another 14 team league.
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    count me in for the free one if there's still room
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    im in the free one if it still has room, already in 2 pay leagues and would be cutting into my poker $$, so if you still have room im in!

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    If there's still room, count me in.
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    kingnat,

    Can you please list all the members we have right now from 1 to 14 so that folks know how many open spots we have left?

    Thanks,
    Eric
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    how do i sign up
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    send me an invite for the fee league
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    Quote Originally Posted by MALEBOLGIA
    send me an invite for the fee league
    This is the FREE league... talk to ItDepends for the "Fee" league...
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    As requested these are the people I sent emails to about the Free Fantasy Football Info:

    1. Kingnat
    2. Eric
    3. cardsman1992
    4. ItDepends
    5. Midas06
    6. jukejointroach
    7. JD52
    8.
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    11.
    12.
    13.
    14.

    We have requests from zacsdad, raydel, and MALEBOLGIA, but I think we need to demand a 20 post minimum... in order to gain access to the league. Please pile-on all you FTR'rsss....

    Post here and I'll PM you details.
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    Come on folks, sign up for the remaining spots...
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    I'm in at least for the free league. Do we have a draft date yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blade
    I'm in at least for the free league. Do we have a draft date yet?
    Not yet but we're talking about it. Obviously it has to be before the season starts on Sep 7.

    Tuesday Sep 5th should work for me, what do you guys think?
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    Sep. 5th? A little late, don't ya think?
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    I think the date depends on a 1st come/1st basis and the choice dates (towards the beg. of the season) will fill up first. kingnat will need to send word on what dates are avail.
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    i wanna play in the free one
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    any spots still available? i garuntee i dominate fantasy football
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    kingnat,

    We should update the list again to show blade and the other folks who have chimed in recently.

    We should also require that all league members email you a backup list of their top 150 players so we have something for them in case they don't show up on draft night(obviously those folks who do show up do not have to use the picks in their backup list).

    Thanks,
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    There are 12 teams currently in the league... and you know who you are...

    it's difficult for me to identify the people based on their yahoo id, so I propose we just cut it at 12 and run with it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    We should also require that all league members email you a backup list of their top 150 players so we have something for them in case they don't show up on draft night(obviously those folks who do show up do not have to use the picks in their backup list).
    I understand the point of having this if we conduct the draft in the FTR chat room, but that creates a TON more work to do this whole thing... and I'd much rather just do it with the online draft software that yahoo makes available. Is there a particularly good reason for not using the Yahoo program? Times are pretty tight.. and as I previously posted I set us up for a Wednesday 8pm CST (right around when the gauntlet is running).

    Any thoughts on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    There are 12 teams currently in the league... and you know who you are...

    it's difficult for me to identify the people based on their yahoo id, so I propose we just cut it at 12 and run with it...
    One of the reasons we do these leagues here is so that members can talk more about football in the forums much like the way the Gauntlet creates more poker conversations in the forums. Let's start by listing the 12 yahoo teams in this thread and then ask those forum members to identify themselves. This makes it less confusing during the league. In other words, we need a mapping similar to the Gauntlet mapping here: http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-l...layer_list.php
    Once all 12 members reply in this thread with their yahoo teams I'll be happy to make the mapping.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    I'd much rather just do it with the online draft software that yahoo makes available. Is there a particularly good reason for not using the Yahoo program? Times are pretty tight.. and as I previously posted I set us up for a Wednesday 8pm CST (right around when the gauntlet is running).
    Ok, let's use the yahoo software. Please repeat the date/time of the draft along with the 12 yahoo ids below this post. We'll then look for each of the 12 members to confirm that we're all set by replying below your new Draft Date/Draft Members post.

    Thanks.
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    somehow we have 13 players signed up, and yahoo wont draft w/ an odd number of people. also when i look at draft central it says the draft is autopick...

    i thought for sure the draft was gonna be during the gauntlet tonight

    btw my name is Boomshakalaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    kingnat,

    We should update the list again to show blade and the other folks who have chimed in recently.

    We should also require that all league members email you a backup list of their top 150 players so we have something for them in case they don't show up on draft night(obviously those folks who do show up do not have to use the picks in their backup list).

    Thanks,
    Eric
    you do not have to worry about that - Its always cool to have a live draft, but if people cant make it the computer will use their pre-set Auto pick players....Even if people don't set the auto rank players at all, Yahoo still assigns GENERALLY fair ranks so the team owners won't be totally screwed if they aren't there -

    I have done Yahoo! exclusively and I love it - I think we should have ind. D spots (like Lewis and Uhrlacher can be on your team) and massive points categories....

    If there are any spots, I would love to play free or a buy in (up to like $50 would be tops for me...14 teams would still bring a TON in for the prize pool)

    let meknow if there is still a spot and just PM me the ID and Password and i'll log right on....
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    OK, obviously I got a little busy and have been a piss poor commish. Earlier this summer I had all sorts of time and things have been tight recently.

    The draft was set to go... but a 13th owner joined and so it automatically switched to an autopick draft.

    If LiminaintEZ joins.. I will try to find a time to draft... one option would be to draft sometime on Friday after the first Thursday night game... there might be some spots open. I honestly can't even look at available times until we have an even number of teams.

    Sorry for being the suck.
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    cardsman's colts
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    The above are the 14 teams in the league I managed to switch the draft time to THIS COMING WEDNESDAY at 9pm CDT. That's Wednesday August 30th at 9pm. If this is REALLY bad for lots of people, let me know and we can try to switch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingnat
    I managed to switch the draft time to THIS COMING WEDNESDAY at 9pm CDT. That's Wednesday August 30th at 9pm
    If we already filled out are draft picks then do we need to be there if it is an auto-draft? I was there last Wednesday but I couldn't tell if it was necessary.

    We should all match up our team names with our forum handles here so that forum discussions are less confusing. I'll start(mine is obvious):
    yahoo team: Eric = ftr handle: Eric
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    pretty obvious too....I have cardsman's colts.

    Nat, could you resend league ID and password?

    Thanks!!
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    cool. catch y'all wed. nite at the new draft time w/ 14 teams.
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    you can have a live draft and whoever makes it, makes it - But ifyou have players pre-ranked, doesn't matter if you make it or not - computer will take the player at the top of your list when its your turn to draft - Live drafts are just a bit more fun cause you can criticize peoples picks

    kidding, of course....14 teams is going to be tough - for sure -
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    The league is actually set up as a live serpentine draft... but as was stated above, pre-ranking your players will allow you set things up in case you can't make it...

    Doing things like removing C-Mart and/or Priest from the draft list all together would be reccomended. (since, ya know.. they ain't playing and all).
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    Do we want to keep all 14 teams even if some of them are owned by people who rarely/never bother to post in this forum? It won't be much fun if some of the team owners never change anything after the auto-draft(lineups, injuries etc) and never post in the forums.

    Here's the list I have so far:
    yahoo team =========> ftr forum handle
    cardsman's colts =========> cardsman1992
    Kingnat All Naturals =========> kingnat
    Eric =========> Eric
    ArjansHaze =========> blade
    Boomshakalaka =========> fjuanl
    LimpinAintEZ =========> LimpinAintEZ
    Does anyone know which forum members own the teams below?
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    Doing things like removing C-Mart and/or Priest from the draft list all together would be reccomended. (since, ya know.. they ain't playing and all).
    yea same with both mannings, its a shame they retired
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    Oh.. and kickers go early so make sure you act fast if you want a good one, and don't worry about RBs, you can always trade for one later.

    HTH
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    DRAFT TONIGHT!!!

    With 14 teams it's gonna be dirty and all about grabbin' the sleepers... who is this year's FWP? Which good ol' boy is going to break out in their 30s a la Galloway and Glenn? It's a beautiful thing... the NFL!
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    nobody answers me on the board, maybe they will answer me here - Lets have Points Per Receptions....Its becoming a pretty standard category...Yahoo standards suck - too many guys will not be worth jack if its yards and TD's only...Lets add PPR and have a competitive league...shit, with 14 teams we are gonna need all the points we can get -
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimpinAintEZ
    nobody answers me on the board, maybe they will answer me here - Lets have Points Per Receptions....Its becoming a pretty standard category...Yahoo standards suck - too many guys will not be worth jack if its yards and TD's only...Lets add PPR and have a competitive league...shit, with 14 teams we are gonna need all the points we can get -
    Sounds good to me, PPR is a nice reward for owning possession-type receivers.

    Also, we told everyone in last year's league to use this Sports Forum for communication - not the league software. The same thing applies this year, please use this ftr Sports Betting Forum to discuss anything related to our league. In other words whether the league is on EA Sports, Yahoo or some other platform, we want to keep the communication here on ftr, not on some external platform. Part of the reason for this is that it keeps other members up to date on what is going on. Another reason is that posting in the forums automatically gives us archives of what we discussed in the leagues.
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    sounds good to me - anything to add to my post count works for me

    whats all this "possession type receivers talk" about? I was under the impression that i wasn't in a league with a bunch of sharks....i usually AM the shark for FF

    gotta get the PPR setting in before the draft...can't change after we have drafted -

    good luck everyone -
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimpinAintEZ
    whats all this "possession type receivers talk" about? I was under the impression that i wasn't in a league with a bunch of sharks....i usually AM the shark for FF
    I've been in quite a few leagues but blade is the one you have to worry about, he is a true shark when it comes to fantasy football.
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    i have added 1 point per reception to the scoring system.

    See you tonight.
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    Nacho The Luchador reporting. (Previously known as Trenton Fire)
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    can we remove two members and get this down to 12? i dont even know who some of these guys are, it seems like a few arent going to be very active.
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    I just tried to sign in and it told me league was full?????

    Was going to remove some players....
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    never mind, got in now. I have two Yahoo logins.... LOL
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    I am 13th in the draft that sucks
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    I am 13th in the draft that sucks
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    i couldn't get java on my computer in time. who'd i pick so far?
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    i cant believe i forgot about the draft, my team suuucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjuanl
    i cant believe i forgot about the draft, my team suuucks
    I actually think your team woulda been ok if you had tapped a little RB depth.. instead of laying on the WRs... late in the draft.

    But yes, your team does suck.

    HTH
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    crap forgot bout the draft
  72. #72
    Damn! I have been waiting and counting down, then had to leave the house and didn't get home until just now. I don't think I did too bad though. (Nittany Lions) though my RB position is CRAP.
  73. #73
    i've got a pretty solid team.
    Liter of cola.
  74. #74
    I'll be posting pics of the selection order and final teams some time today I hope.... then everyone can judge you.

    And raydel... Jeremy Shockey in the 1st... genius.
    So you click their picture and then you get their money?
  75. #75
    fucking autodraft. domanick davis and ron dayne? christ.

    though LT and gates help soothe the pain.

    and also, jukejointroach = this is a stickup!
    Unite and Annihilate!

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