Starfleet Selections: NFL Week 2

[ensign_lee]

Well, record update:

YTD: 5-11-1
Units won: -16.51

Sunday's Record:
5-10-1
Units won: -15.4

YTD Record Broken Down:
-201 or worse: 0-0
-125 or -200: 0-0
-111 to -125: 2-0-1
-101 to -110: 3-7
+100 to +110: 0-2
+111 to +125: 0-0
+125 to +185: 0-1
+186 to +300: 0-0
+300 onwards: 0-0

1 unit plays: 4-7-1
2 unit plays: 1-2
3 unit plays: 0-0
10 unit plays: 0-1

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Ok. I'm going to REALLY try to limit the number of plays I have this week. Sprayed the board last week and got OWNED.

Here are lines that I am interested in betting straight:

Houston Texans +14.5 (-113) @ Indianapolis Colts
NOT just a homer bet. Colts just came off a big prime time win, and face divisional foes, the Jacksonville Jaguars the next week. They could “look ahead” here. Texans aren’t THAT bad…they covered the -16.5 last year when they went to Indy

New York Giants Moneyline (whatever it will be) or +3 (+107) @ Philadelphia Eagles
Giants are better than the Eagles. Period. They just faced off very well against a good Colts team. Only problems I see are A) they are on the road, going into a very hostile stadium B) they may be drained from their prime-time season opener

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +7 (-121) @ Atlanta Falcons
Sure, Tampa got owned today. But you can bet Coach Gruden won’t let his team get walked all over. Atlanta’s coming off a big divisional upset win against the Panthers (everyone’s darling), so they may be a little distracted in preparation this week. 7 points is WAY too many to be giving the Buccaneers

St. Louis Rams -3 (-107) @ San Francisco
San Francisco is bad. PERIOD. End of story.

Seattle Seahawks -6.5 (-107) vs. Arizona
Forget for a second that Arizona just had a strong showing against the 49ers and forget for a second that the Seahawks nearly lost to the Lions. Seattle MUST have been looking ahead to this game here: a divisional game against the team arguably second best in the division. Arizona gameplanned and gameplanned well for San Francisco, but 2 weeks of study (for Seattle) is better than one week of study (for Arizona).

Also, I think there will be public overreaction to the Seahawk’s poor showing and the Cardinal’s strong showing. If this hits -5.5, I’m all over it, and even if it stays where it is, I will still strongly consider betting it.

Here are lines that look like “teaser bait” to me. They cross important numbers, and allow me to fade bad teams that I planned on fading, while at the same time backing good teams from the year before (who shouldn’t have deteriorated in talent that much). I’ll probably be including these in some teasers:

Miami -7 vs. Buffalo
Chicago -7.5 vs. Detroit
New England -6 @ New York Jets
Denver -7 (if Trent Green doesn't come back) vs. Kansas City

[ensign_lee]

Actually did take advantage of Tampa Bay +7 at -121 at Pinnacle when I saw that thegreek had them at +6 only.

Wish I'd taken the Texans +14.5 bet, but it's a little late for that now. Oh well.

Looking at doing my teaser at thegreek, as the lines for my teasers have started to move:
CHI is now -8 everywhere else while thegreek has it at -7.5
Denver is now -8.5 everywhere else while thegreek has it at -7!!!

[ensign_lee]

Ok: two plays to add on

3 team teaser
Mia -.5
CHI -1.5
NE +1
2 units @ (+180) at thegreek

3 team parlay:
MIA -6.5
CHI -7 (bought the half point)
NE -5
1 unit @ (+560) at thegreek

Usually, when my teaser hits, the extra points I bought don't really come into play, meaning that each leg covered the spread anyway. So I'm doing an experiment: a parlay for half the units of the teaser, to try to increase my expected payout.

Of course, this means that if any leg fails, I lose both the parlay AND the teaser, but yeah...

[zook]

Houston Texans +14.5 (-113) @ Indianapolis Colts
NOT just a homer bet. Colts just came off a big prime time win, and face divisional foes, the Jacksonville Jaguars the next week. They could “look ahead” here. Texans aren’t THAT bad…they covered the -16.5 last year when they went to Indy

I like this, but it sucks the line went down to 13 most places.

New York Giants Moneyline (whatever it will be) or +3 (+107) @ Philadelphia Eagles
Giants are better than the Eagles. Period.

This is just crazy talk. Eagles at home, healthy McNabb, upgraded defense, against an NFC East rival... no way I'm betting against the Eagles. BUT, the Giants are a solid team all-around, so I'm staying far, far away.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers +7 (-121) @ Atlanta Falcons
Sure, Tampa got owned today. But you can bet Coach Gruden won’t let his team get walked all over. Atlanta’s coming off a big divisional upset win against the Panthers (everyone’s darling), so they may be a little distracted in preparation this week. 7 points is WAY too many to be giving the Buccaneers

I like this bet and the reasoning, but the line is down to 6 so I'll probably stay away here too.

St. Louis Rams -3 (-107) @ San Francisco
San Francisco is bad. PERIOD. End of story.

I LOVE this bet. Might put 2 units on it.

Seattle Seahawks -6.5 (-107) vs. Arizona
Forget for a second that Arizona just had a strong showing against the 49ers and forget for a second that the Seahawks nearly lost to the Lions. Seattle MUST have been looking ahead to this game here: a divisional game against the team arguably second best in the division. Arizona gameplanned and gameplanned well for San Francisco, but 2 weeks of study (for Seattle) is better than one week of study (for Arizona).

Also, I think there will be public overreaction to the Seahawk’s poor showing and the Cardinal’s strong showing. If this hits -5.5, I’m all over it, and even if it stays where it is, I will still strongly consider betting it.

I like this one a lot too. This is probably my other play this week.

Only other game I'm thinking about right now is CLE +10.5 vs. CIN. Good luck lee.

[elipsesjeff]

I want to get in on Chicago too, I'm hoping the line will continue to fall as last night Bowmans had them at -9. If they get above -7, I'll put money on it.

St. Louis vs San Fran almost looks too good to be true, will put money on this before the line goes any higher.

I'm with zook on most everything else, those lines don't look to appetizing at the moment, but maybe they'll get better as the week progresses.

I was thinking of the colts vs texans as well if the line was back up to +14.5. Would it ever make any sense to just take the money line on this game? Considering that the Colts are going to win anyway?

[blade]

STL -3 vs. SF. my pick of the week. also have:
NO -2 vs. GB. i see this line moving up a point by kickoff
NYG +3 vs. Phi. i'll take the points on this one.

[ensign_lee]

AH DAMMIT. Shoulda taken the Broncos when I had the chance. Line's up to freaking -11 now! glar...

[ensign_lee]

I want to get in on Chicago too, I'm hoping the line will continue to fall as last night Bowmans had them at -9. If they get above -7, I'll put money on it.

St. Louis vs San Fran almost looks too good to be true, will put money on this before the line goes any higher.

I'm with zook on most everything else, those lines don't look to appetizing at the moment, but maybe they'll get better as the week progresses.

I was thinking of the colts vs texans as well if the line was back up to +14.5. Would it ever make any sense to just take the money line on this game? Considering that the Colts are going to win anyway?

Moneyline is at -1000. So, let's look at this like a poker hand preflop.

In order to break even, the Colts are going to have to win this game on average 10 times every 11 games or so, right? So to make a PROFIT, they're going to have to do better than that.

I think the Texans would be able to steal this game at least once every 11 games, so I think that this would be a -EV bet. This isn't USC vs. Baylor or something like that; this is the NFL. The talent gap isn't large enough to warrant laying 10 to win 1.

So my opinion? No: -EV bet. But use your own reasoning.

[ensign_lee]

Took Miami -6.5 vs. Buffalo (-110) @ thegreek. Lines seemed to be moving against me so I took what I could while I could.

So, as far as straight bets go, I have two so far:
Tampa Bay +7 (-121) @ Pinnacle
Miami -6.5 (-115) @ thegreek
, both for 1 unit.

[ensign_lee]

Record Update after MNF:

YTD: 5-11-1
Units won: -15.22

Sunday's Record:
1-0
Units won: 1.28

YTD Record Broken Down:
-201 or worse: 0-0
-125 or -200: 0-0
-111 to -125: 2-0-1
-101 to -110: 3-7
+100 to +110: 0-2
+111 to +125: 0-0
+125 to +185: 1-1
+186 to +300: 0-0
+300 onwards: 0-0

1 unit plays: 5-7-1
2 unit plays: 1-2
3 unit plays: 0-0
10 unit plays: 0-1

[elipsesjeff]

My plan for next sunday:

NYG (+3) vs Philadelphia (-$104) (Pinnacle +$102)
New Orleans (-2) vs Green Bay (-$110)
St. Louis (-3) vs San Fran (-$110) (Pinnacle -$105)
New England (-6) vs NYJ (-$110) (Pinnacle -$105)
Chicago (over 32) vs Detroit (-$110) (Pinnacle -$101)

All for one unit. The first parenthesis is at Mansion, second is pinnacle. Looks like I'll be going to Pinnacle if I can save 1/4 of a unit between 5 bets.

I'm pretty confident in the Bears over/under line, but still unsure about my others. Thoughts?

[ARK]

One more to add: Baltimore -7 over the Raiders at sportsbetting.com

[zook]

NYG (+3) vs Philadelphia (-$104) (Pinnacle +$102)

Don't like this for reasons stated above, but I'm a Philly fan, so you can ignore me.

New Orleans (-2) vs Green Bay (-$110)

This is tempting because GB looked so terrible, but I don't think New Orleans is going to be great this year and home-field advantage is huge at Lambeau. I have to think about this one.

St. Louis (-3) vs San Fran (-$110) (Pinnacle -$105)

Already laid 2 units on this at Mansion at (-107) on their Sports Exchange.

New England (-6) vs NYJ (-$110) (Pinnacle -$105)

Meh. I have no idea.

Chicago (over 32) vs Detroit (-$110) (Pinnacle -$101)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, looks like a good bet. I might play this. I also like Jacksonville (PK) over Pittsburgh on MNF.

Record last weekend: 3-0 +4 units

[kingnat]

I'm jumping on the St. Louis -3 over SF (1 unit) bandwagon... but for different reasons. The Niners lost Larry Allen OG for 2-4 weeks, and Jonas Jennings their best OT is questionable for now... The Rams D was not great against the run on Sunday, but acceptable against the pass. Hopefully with the Niners injuries the Rams can control both aspects of the game.

I'm also taking the Eagles (-3) over the Giants for 1 unit. The Giants are quite good, but the Colts defense is slipping back to mediocre which made the Giants offense look that much better. It is my opinion that Eli's fantastic skills are not a proven commodity at this point. He's got a fair ways to go and I expect the Eagles to test him. I expect the Eagles to finish with a top 5 defence this season. I'm quite confident that the Eagles can cover this spread and the fact that it's in Philly just ices the cake.

So far this season I'm 1-2-0... (side note: Drew Tate can lick my balls)

[ensign_lee]

Adding:
Buffalo Bills team total UNDER 14.5

The Bills will not get a craptastic defensive touchdown again. NO.

They are going on the road for the second consecutive week, against a division rival. Miami has had extra days to prepare for this game, and more days to rest.

Same reasoning goes for my Miami -6.5 (-115) bet.

[euphoricism]

This shit makes my brain hurt, but I'm tryin..

[ensign_lee]

This shit makes my brain hurt, but I'm tryin..

Let me know what's bothering you and I'll do my best to help.

[ensign_lee]

I dunno why they did that, but Skybook had the Miami line at -6. So with the half point, that means I can take Miami -5.5 vs. the Bills.

I double popped that one.

So uh...

Miami -5.5 (-110) vs. Buffalo
2 units at Skybook

I'm thinking I'll count the -5.5 as one play and the -6.5 as another play, if it's all the same to y'all. If it bothers you, let me know and I'll average the odds or something crazy like that.

[ensign_lee]

Allright, I've gone a little teaser crazy this week.

Oh: and pretty much all roads run through Miami. If they don't win, I'm going to be very sad.

Well, here goes:

2-team 6-point teaser:
SEA -1
NE pk
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

2-team 6-point teaser:
MIA -.5
CHI -2.5
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

2 team- 6 point teaser:
MIA -.5
SEA -1
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

3-team 6-point teaser:
MIA -.5
CHI -2.5
SEA -1
2 units (+180) @ Skybook

In case y'all didn't notice, Mansion is THE SHIT for two team teasers. I don't know of any other place right now where you can get a 2-team 6 point teaser for +100 and have ties push instead of lose. Everywhere else charges -110.

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

[ensign_lee]

I dunno why they did that, but Skybook had the Miami line at -6. So with the half point, that means I can take Miami -5.5 vs. the Bills.

I double popped that one.

So uh...

Miami -5.5 (-110) vs. Buffalo
2 units at Skybook

I'm thinking I'll count the -5.5 as one play and the -6.5 as another play, if it's all the same to y'all. If it bothers you, let me know and I'll average the odds or something crazy like that.

Just looked and Skybook has MIA -5.5 (which means you can get the free half point to 5...not that it matters THAT much). Every other book is hanging -6.5. If you plan on getting on this, DO IT NOW.

[zook]

In case y'all didn't notice, Mansion is THE SHIT for two team teasers. I don't know of any other place right now where you can get a 2-team 6 point teaser for +100 and have ties push instead of lose. Everywhere else charges -110.

Nice lee! Hooking me up again. Just placed:

2 team - 6 point teaser:
CHI -2.5
SEA -1
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

Just have this and 2 units on STL... waiting to decide on the rest.

[ensign_lee]

In case y'all didn't notice, Mansion is THE SHIT for two team teasers. I don't know of any other place right now where you can get a 2-team 6 point teaser for +100 and have ties push instead of lose. Everywhere else charges -110.

Nice lee! Hooking me up again. Just placed:

2 team - 6 point teaser:
CHI -2.5
SEA -1
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

Just have this and 2 units on STL... waiting to decide on the rest.

You know...I like that bet.

I'll take that as well:

2-team 6-point teaser
CHI -2.5
SEA -1
2 units (+100) @ Mansion.

[swiggidy]

No one likes Pit -1.5 over Jac?

seems pretty safe to me

[ensign_lee]

No one likes Pit -1.5 over Jac?

seems pretty safe to me

I wouldn't take that. Away game, primetime, with Ben only 50/50 to show?

If that his +3 for jacksonville, I'll (yuch; i hate betting on jacksonville. I had a strong lean to them last week, but was like "no!!! I can't like jacksonville!) think about betting that line.

[zook]

You know...I like that bet.

I'll take that as well:

2-team 6-point teaser
CHI -2.5
SEA -1
2 units (+100) @ Mansion.

lol. You're a teaser whore I'll be rooting for Miami for you, but I don't have much confidence in Culpepper.

No one likes Pit -1.5 over Jac?

seems pretty safe to me

I like Jacksonville to win. I'm going to wait a day or two and probably play the money line.

[ensign_lee]

Well what am I supposed to do with favorites at like -7 everywhere or -10+ everywhere!

Call me a teaser whore...

[zook]

Well what am I supposed to do with favorites at like -7 everywhere or -10+ everywhere!

Call me a teaser whore...

lol. You could put money on some of these huge underdogs to cover... I do like your bet on the Texans actually. And I'm tempted to take the Browns at +10.

Question for you... what do you think of this:

2 team - 6 point teaser:
CLE +16
HOU +19
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

I don't usually tease, so I'm not sure if bumping up lines for underdogs is a good idea. At first glance, I really like it though.

[ensign_lee]

Hah; I wish I had that +14.5 bet in.

Those first write-ups were all LEANS, not BETS. It would cost me a TON of juice to get back to that line, so I'm not going to get those lines...for now.

If the line creeps up (and it looks like it's headed in that direction), I'll definitely take +14.5 on the Texans if I cna get it.

I wouldn't tease HOU, just because its' facing Indy. Indy's offense can run away with a game without even trying. Tying that game to other games is iffy in my book.

However, in general, bumping up lines for underdogs is a good idea; just make sure you cross critical numbers when you do it.

Just try not to go against teams with high powered offenses (like Cincy AND Indy).

[ensign_lee]

And as far as taking underdogs, lots of these dogs are teams I wanted to fade for the year, so I'm not anxious to bet ON them.

I am looking at playing the Browns, though, just because 70+% of the public is on the other side. Ditto for Houston. That same fact is keeping me away from betting on STL.

I'm leaning towards taking Minnesota vs. Carolina, because a majority of people are on Carolina, AND YET THE LINE MOVES TOWARDS CAROLINA?!?!

I'm going to try to wait and see if the Packers line hits +3, or the moneyline hits +150 or above.

[zook]

Just try not to go against teams with high powered offenses (like Cincy AND Indy).

Excellent point. Don't think I'll take that tease.

I just read Daliman's Wong teaser thread on 2+2 and laid this one down though, crossing the 3 and the 7 on both bets:

2 team - 6 point teaser:
JAC +7.5
SEA -1
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

That's it for me I think. So for the weekend I have that plus:

2 team - 6 point teaser:
CHI -2.5
SEA -1
1 unit (+100) @ Mansion

And:

STL -3 vs. SFO (-107) @ Mansion for 2 units

Go Rams!!!

[swiggidy]

I took cleveland with the +10.5 I think. I think they'll keep it close, but I'm also a fanboy

[ensign_lee]

Quick: get these lines NOW. THEY WILL MOVE.

NE -5.5 (-110) vs. NYJ
2 units @ Skybook

DEN/KC UNDER 40 (-109.5)
2 units @ Matchbook

MIN -2.5 (+116) vs. CAR
1 unit @ Pinnacle

WAS +6.5 (-110) vs. DAL
1 unit @ Skybook

[Phantaroth]

bodog.com is the source for these

This week i'd go:

Raiders +13 vs. Baltimore
Green Bay +3 vs. New Orleans
Kansas City +12 vs Denver
St Louis -3 vs. 49ers

Buffalo vs Miamia - Under 37
Arizona vs Seattle Under 47

I like all of these

[ensign_lee]

BODOG HAS GB +3?!?!?!?!

[Phantaroth]

yes

[ensign_lee]

You have to pay -125, though. Yuch.

You should include extra jucie when you post if you're paying it.

[Phantaroth]

I don't know what any of that stuff means, I don't bet on sports yet, I am just learning.

What is the (-100) next to the odds?

[swiggidy]

It refers to the payout (-100 would be even).

-105 means you have to risk $1.05 to win $1
-200 means you have to risk $2 to win $1

+105 means you have to risk $1 to win $1.05
+200 means you have to risk $1 to win $2

When you win you get your bet back, so at -105 you pay $1.05 to place the wager. If you win they pay you $2.05, your winnings plus your bet back.

[ensign_lee]

SEA -6.5 (-110) vs. ARI
1 unit at Nine

[elipsesjeff]

Whatever happened to you not betting every game lee?

[elipsesjeff]

My bets for this week:

1) Chicago (Over 32) vs Detroit -110 100 (Mansion)

2) NY Giants vs Phiadelphia NYG +126 100 (Mansion)

3) Teaser: Seattle (-1) And New England (-.5) -110 (Bodog)

I got in a little late as it is hard for me to keep up with it during the week. I also missed about $20 in value by not opening a pinnacle account yet. I hadn't withdrawn my money from Mansion yet so nothing to deposit lol. I'm also kickin myself because I didn't even check Bodog's line on the NYG game until after I placed it.

This will probably be all my bets this week. My NYG money line is my most gamboolishest, as it seems no one gives Baby Manning any credit. I have a hunch though and I'm gonna take it.

[ensign_lee]

Whatever happened to you not betting every game lee?

I AIN'T betting every game!!!

I have bets on like 6 games. 32 teams / 2 = 16 possible games. 6/16 ain't THAT bad...

Ya gotta take edges where you can find 'em. (heh...says the guy that will probably get CUT by all his edges. hahaha)

Still waiting on GB moneyline to give me more value...

[ensign_lee]

Oakland +13 (-111)
1 unit at Pinnacle

Nearly 70% of the betting public on the other side; oakland did horrible last week; baltimore did great. I think public overreaction is all over this one.

Cleveland +10.5 (-110)
1 unit at Nine
75% of the public on the other side. I don't like the bet either, but....75%!!!

OAK/BAL UNDER 34 (-110)
2 units at Betjamaica

Still waiting on...
GB Moneyline
Texans +14.5 or +14 at reasonable juice.

[ensign_lee]

Green Bay Moneyline (+114 or so)
3 units at Matchbook

CHI/DET Under 32 (-103 or so)
2 units at Matchbook

[ensign_lee]

I fade the public. I lose.
I follow the public. I lose.

I put more than one unit on a game...I lose.

Holy fucking crap. To start off today, I am 0-10. Now that takes talent....

[ensign_lee]

System:

When a team leads by 17+, take the under second half.

SO...

NE/NYJ UNDER 17 (-111)
2 units at Pinnacle

SD/TEN UNDER 16.5 (-103.2)
2 units at Matchbook

[elipsesjeff]

3-0 baby!

Giants pulled that one out of there ass and the over 32 for the bears was pretty easy.

[ensign_lee]

Everyone: just do the opposite of what I bet. YOu'll be rich.

Washington/Dallas UNDER 37: 2 UNITS...

[drmcboy]

sports betting = gamboooooooling

[ensign_lee]

YTD: 11-26-2
Units won: -32.5

Sunday's Record:
6-15-1
Units won: -17.28 units

YTD Record Broken Down:
-201 or worse: 0-0
-125 or -200: 0-0
-111 to -125: 2-4-1
-101 to -110: 6-12-1
+100 to +110: 2-4
+111 to +125: 1-1
+125 to +185: 1-2
+186 to +300: 0-2
+300 onwards: 0-0

1 unit plays: 8-14-1
2 unit plays: 4-9-1
3 unit plays: 0-1
10 unit plays: 0-1


~~~
OK...

That's all I have to say.

[elipsesjeff]

Green Bay Moneyline (+114 or so)
3 units at Matchbook

CHI/DET Under 32 (-103 or so)
2 units at Matchbook

Are you betting more the more you lose? Cuz, it sure looks like it. You know as well as I that you should be increasing the units as a measure of confidence, not as a way to breakeven quicker.

I don't know how you could have any confidence in the Green Bay game, given their lackluster performance the week before.

And the Chicago game, are you for real? I mentioned earlier in the thread, and someone else agreed, that the over was definately a better value than the under. Throwing 2 units on that would also be -EV! Not trying to be a dick but I'm worried about you digging yourself in a big hole.

[elipsesjeff]

Selections for week 3:

Bears (-3) vs Minnesota is an obv one for -$103 at Pinnacle
The Over 33 for that game would be a very good bet IMO for that game too, but not as good as the first. I might do 2 units for the -3 and 1 unit for the over 33, as, if the game is within a few points, its going to be 21-18 or something like that.

I'm going to take Pittsburgh -3 tomorrow at mansion for -$110. It's funny, they have them as a favorite for the money line but not THAT big of one for their handicapping. Depending on how well they perform with Rothlisburger tomorrow i'll determine if I should be for or against them.

I think the NE -6.5 vs Denver is a good line, although this might be a better teaser bet with the Colts.

I'm not going to touch the Giants or the Packers game next week with a 10 foot pole. I feel so uncomfortable about those two teams winning anything and their defenses its too unpredicatble.

Anyone know anything about San Francisco? I'm thinking about betting for Philadelphia -6 (-105) as my only other bet.

[ensign_lee]

Green Bay Moneyline (+114 or so)
3 units at Matchbook

CHI/DET Under 32 (-103 or so)
2 units at Matchbook

Are you betting more the more you lose? Cuz, it sure looks like it. You know as well as I that you should be increasing the units as a measure of confidence, not as a way to breakeven quicker.

I don't know how you could have any confidence in the Green Bay game, given their lackluster performance the week before.

And the Chicago game, are you for real? I mentioned earlier in the thread, and someone else agreed, that the over was definately a better value than the under. Throwing 2 units on that would also be -EV! Not trying to be a dick but I'm worried about you digging yourself in a big hole.

I post plays from a handicapper that I know. I respect his opinion more than mine, so I put two units on his bigger bets. That's how that happened. Although I can see why you thought what you did.

Thanks for your concern, and if you see me doing something stupid, please call me on it.

[ensign_lee]

Selections for week 3:

Bears (-3) vs Minnesota is an obv one for -$103 at Pinnacle
The Over 33 for that game would be a very good bet IMO for that game too, but not as good as the first. I might do 2 units for the -3 and 1 unit for the over 33, as, if the game is within a few points, its going to be 21-18 or something like that.

I'm going to take Pittsburgh -3 tomorrow at mansion for -$110. It's funny, they have them as a favorite for the money line but not THAT big of one for their handicapping. Depending on how well they perform with Rothlisburger tomorrow i'll determine if I should be for or against them.

I think the NE -6.5 vs Denver is a good line, although this might be a better teaser bet with the Colts.

I'm not going to touch the Giants or the Packers game next week with a 10 foot pole. I feel so uncomfortable about those two teams winning anything and their defenses its too unpredicatble.

Anyone know anything about San Francisco? I'm thinking about betting for Philadelphia -6 (-105) as my only other bet.

Chicago line caught my eye as well. This will be Chicago's first semi-test, as they've destroyed cupcake teams so far. I'm looking and observing for now.

If you like PIT -3, you can get +101 right now at Pinnacle. I was thinking about doing that, but am holding off for now.

NE -6.5? I dunno...Denver's not THAT bad, are they?
I was also thinking about Philly laying 6 (or 5.5 with a half point from skybook or nine!), but will wait first.

[ensign_lee]

True record update:

The I have above is inaccurate. I just assumed I was gonna lose the WAS/DAL under. I have to turn that into a push now:

YTD: 11-26-2
Units won: -30.3

Sunday's Record:
6-15-1
Units won: -15.08 units

YTD Record Broken Down:
-201 or worse: 0-0
-125 or -200: 0-0
-111 to -125: 2-4-1
-101 to -110: 6-11-2
+100 to +110: 2-4
+111 to +125: 1-1
+125 to +185: 1-2
+186 to +300: 0-2
+300 onwards: 0-0

1 unit plays: 8-14-1
2 unit plays: 4-8-2
3 unit plays: 0-1
10 unit plays: 0-1

[ensign_lee]

Last play for Week 2:

Jacksonville M/L (+129.36)
2 units at Matchbook

[ensign_lee]

YTD: 12-26-2
Units won: -27.72

YTD Record Broken Down:
-201 or worse: 0-0
-125 or -200: 0-0
-111 to -125: 2-4-1
-101 to -110: 6-11-2
+100 to +110: 2-4
+111 to +125: 1-1
+125 to +185: 2-2
+186 to +300: 0-2
+300 onwards: 0-0

1 unit plays: 8-14-1
2 unit plays: 5-8-2
3 unit plays: 0-1
10 unit plays: 0-1

[zook]

YTD:
Straight wagers: 3-1
2-team Teasers: 2-0
+4 units