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    Default stupid river bet...uh.....push?

    nothing high lvl about this hand so thought i would post it here.

    this is my 3rd hand at table, no reads

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    SB ($1325.75)
    BB ($1292.96)
    UTG ($501.75)
    MP ($1145)
    Hero ($985)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 8. SB posts a blind of $5.
    UTG calls $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $50, 2 folds, UTG calls $40.

    Flop: ($115) J, 9, 9 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $70, UTG calls $70.

    Turn: ($255) 6 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($255) 3 (2 players)
    UTG bets $25, hero ?
  2. #2
    yeah that is a dumb bet size. it's one of those spots where i would suggest that many players call just to see what he had and then start to make some assumptions about how he plays OOP. then, based on what he flips over, start bashing on him in the appropriate spots. that is an information play that is actually worth the cost of the information. you will make the $25 back in one hand and will make much more in different spots. but for you gabe, you go all in a lot, so you need to do it here. if he calls and wins then next time when you go allin against him and actually have something you'll win a full buyin, not just half of one. also a cheap way to show the table you're all fired up with nothing, in case you catch a nice run of cards after this hand.

    i think he has a small PP and can be pushed off. many players will be afraid of your agression since you just sat down, they assume you won't get mixed up in a big pot w/ nothing right away.
    In answer to your question... it depends...
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    Hopefully it's not a mistype.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    often enough he's begging you to push that I think you should call for info or fold
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    Im really curious to see what poeple say about this situation. At 100-200nl this happens to me all the time, cbet flop, check turn and then villain leads into us for a tiny amount. I feel like an idiot for folding here but dont know how to respond to it.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    often enough he's begging you to push that I think you should call for info or fold
    You can't ever fold this getting 11:1 on your money!! Plus the information you get about his cards. We are giving up very little info on us about how we play, since this is a very standard TAG button hand from Gabes vantage point.
    If this guy gets a fold 1 in 10 times, he is making money. He may have 78s.
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    Call for info.

    Either it's a hella-donkey small bet, or it's a mistype.
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