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    Default Facing river oooooooooooooover bet (2 pr)

    My table image should be quite tight. FWIW 8Ts is a hand that I feel very comfortable raising in this situation.

    I don't have a really good read on opp; tight preflop and may be a multitabler. I've seen him around a few times before and hasn't made a negative impression so we can assume that he doesn't totally suck.

    So. This brings us to a good question: is it a wise call with my 2pr here?

    Can you put villian on a hand?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    MP1 ($98.85)
    Hero ($105.80)
    CO ($89.80)
    Button ($107)
    SB ($109.35)
    BB ($96.90)
    UTG ($101.30)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
    1 fold, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3, MP1 calls $3.

    Flop: ($12.50) , , (3 players)
    BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7, MP1 folds.

    Turn: ($26.50) (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15.

    River: ($56.50) (2 players)
    BB bets $70.9 (All-In), Hero ....
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    We will not support your pocket pair aggression.
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    Ask yourself: if you made a straight on the end, and your opponent had bet pretty-big at you each time you checked, would you go all in right away?
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    He might have hit 2 pair on the river???

    Don't think this is a bluff.
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    Betting big/pushing the river OOP into a player that has been leading strong the entire hand is very rarely a bluff.
    TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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    I bet bigger on the flop + turn and pot-commit by the river. I would also re-raise to 5x pre-flop if I thought I had lots of fold equity on the flop. Raising to 4x here is a pot builder.

    Fold as played.
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    So are we thinking JJ? or JT? I don't see KJ calling that flop unless they're both hearts... would a flopped set play this passively as more draws materialize?
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    Well... when he pushed the river, I tanked and thought of two things:

    1. Set of 4s. This seemed unlikely b/c of the increasing drawishness of the board. Plus if he was thinking he'd be against overs, he'd probably try to build the pot a bit faster.

    2. Busted FD. It seems kind of strange that he would chase it, though.

    No other hand (except perhaps JJ, which I didn't consider) really seemed to fit. 44 seemed highly remote so I put opp on a busted FD.

    It was a busted FD... but he traded a showdown of for my stack.

    Nice read/line of thought LeFou:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefou
    Ask yourself: if you made a straight on the end, and your opponent had bet pretty-big at you each time you checked, would you go all in right away?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    We will not support your pocket pair aggression.
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    You did this to yourself.

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