Elementary?

[Ash256]

This might seem stupid to regulars here, but I've only just moved up to 20NL, and I've found that my game is far from rounded - I'm used to c-betting, betting my good hands and folding my bad hands in 10NL to get a nice winrate, but there's quite a few more TAGs up here, and I feel that I need to put a bit more thought in my game. I feel that I've got quite a few gaps in my game/knowledge, and posting here for advice will help me plug those gaps.

Hand 1:

iPoker 20NL FR, 10 players. Just joined, one orbit, no reads. I'd made a standard 4x preflop raise and taken it down with a c-bet postflop.

Seat 3: vizz ( $17.10 )
Seat 7: Resistance ( $12.45 )
brentmcc1965 posts Small Blind $0.10
mcscoots posts Big Blind $0.20
xMonster77x posts Big Blind $0.20
Dealing cards
Your cards :Td: :Th: [Resistance]
2 folds
vizz calls $0.20
1 fold
xMonster77x checks
punischer calls $0.20
Resistance raises $0.80
3 folds
vizz calls $0.60
1 fold
punischer calls $0.60
Dealing Flop
vizz checks
punischer checks
Resistance bets $2.50
vizz raises $5
punischer folds
Resistance folds
Winner is vizz $10.05

Was vizz kind enough to let me know he had a set there, or could he have been betting a big draw like 5h6h? How often is this a big draw or something stupid like A9 for me to want to get all my chips in with a weak overpair? Good/bad fold?

Hand 2:
20NL FR full table.

I'd been playing standard TAG for a couple of orbits, hadn't seen any crazy shit, just seemed like a standard semi-loose table.
Seat 1: Resistance ( $11.75 )
Seat 2: paolofutre23 ( $7.20 )
Seat 3: GrodanBolll ( $15.95 )
Seat 6: JLYN ( $8.65 )
Seat 9: NeoDk ( $4.80 )
paolofutre23 posts Small Blind $0.10
GrodanBolll posts Big Blind $0.20
Dealing cards
Your cards :Ac: [Resistance]
2 folds
JLYN calls $0.20
1 fold
NeoDk calls $0.20
Resistance calls $0.20
paolofutre23 calls $0.10
GrodanBolll checks
Dealing Flop :Ad: :As:
paolofutre23 checks
GrodanBolll checks
JLYN checks
NeoDk checks
Resistance bets $0.80
Everyone folds.
Winner is Resistance $1.75

Firstly, is flat limping on the button in a family pot with Ac9c ok? Should I be raising here?

Secondly, the flop.. I felt that despite me hitting trips, it was a fairly weak trips, what with my poor kicker. I also felt that the only money I'm getting there is through a 9, and that betting the flop would be more likely to lure a 9 in than checking and having to bet the turn hard in order to make up for the lack of money going in on the flop. Should I have checked along with the rest and hoped that someone would hit a picture on the turn?

Cheers, I might add any other hands I come across sometime as well.

[nutsinho]

1. good fold
2. if your kicker were any better i'd want to bet all streets for max value, but since your kicker is just a 9 you don't really want a huge pot, and since there is also no logical draw available on the flop, I think you can check here a lot in hopes that someone picks up a calldownable hand on the turn.

[Miffed22001]

1. good fold

???

[MiJ]

hand 1 is very read dependent , as u said he could be doing this with a draw , A9 , overpair ,set , or complete air (he may have seen u cbet a couple of times) but your asking the right questions , now all you need is reads ...

hand 2 raise PF , your on the button with a decent hand in 6max ..standard raise ...

[nutsinho]

1. good fold

???

low stakes/likely uncreative player check-minraises a PSB from the PFR and you think a pair of tens is good. yeah, i'm the one who gets mocked. ok miffed.

[Miffed22001]

1. good fold

???

low stakes/likely uncreative player check-minraises a PSB from the PFR and you think a pair of tens is good. yeah, i'm the one who gets mocked. ok miffed.

Ill guess your just being an asshole here more than anything else.

[nutsinho]

it just seems continuing here is a clear losing play and as youre a consistent winner i dont see how you think differently. The reason low stakes games are easy to beat these days is that most players make their hands very transparent and are scarcely aggressive versus displayed strength without a big hand, not because players overplay marginal hands like A9o here and hand over their stacks that way.

[Miffed22001]

it just seems continuing here is a clear losing play and as youre a consistent winner i dont see how you think differently. The reason low stakes games are easy to beat these days is that most players make their hands very transparent and are scarcely aggressive versus displayed strength without a big hand, not because players overplay marginal hands like A9o here and hand over their stacks that way.

heart draw/A9?

I dont think potting the flop was the best idea to start with as it commits us to the pot if we get raised, but i dont think its a clear fold.
Its also possible we dont have a whole lot either considering the pfr and flop which is why a pretty weak small stakes player goes 'haha check-raise bitch!' :P

[swiggidy]

Hand 1: Raise more pre-flop. If there are limpers, you need to add a BB for each limper. So since you're behind 2, make it 4 (standard) + 2 (limpers) = 6BB. All your bet did is bloat the pot.

As played I probably call the flop min-raise. Enough people do that with draws, or bottom pair that it's not terrible. If he comes out strong on the turn easy fold. The same players who make check min-raises will often fire out a minbet on the turn.

I also don't think folding is terrible.

[Sheetah]

Slightly OT but Ash256, I've played at ipoker a lot lately and my impression is that playing FR there is pure waste of time. Lots of ipoker rooms are offering plethora of bonuses and NL20 FR is an entry whoring level IMO, populated with nits with only one idea: to clear the bonus! I suggest you prepare a little and move to NL20 6max - much juicier games and worse players.