standard?

[Numbr2intheWorld]

not much of a read, i have a sense that both are loose.

PokerStars Game #6715153900: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/10/21 - 13:42:52 (ET)
Table 'Trinculo' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: redgrape ($71.25 in chips)
Seat 2: superlatif81 ($114.30 in chips)
Seat 3: doggamuffin ($36.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Mc-non ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Melberg ($53.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Razzagon ($9 in chips)
superlatif81: posts small blind $0.25
Razzagon said, "haha"
doggamuffin: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redgrape [Jc Js]
Mc-non: calls $0.50
Melberg: folds
Razzagon: folds
redgrape: raises $2 to $2.50
superlatif81: folds
doggamuffin: calls $2
Mc-non: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [2d 4h 3d]
doggamuffin: checks
Mc-non: checks
redgrape: bets $5
doggamuffin: folds
Mc-non: raises $8 to $13
redgrape: raises $55.75 to $68.75 and is all-in

summary white:
Mc-non: calls $35.25 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [2d 4h 3d] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [2d 4h 3d 7h] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mc-non: shows [3c 5c] (a pair of Threes)
redgrape: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
redgrape collected $101.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $104.25 | Rake $3
Board [2d 4h 3d 7h Qh]
Seat 1: redgrape (button) showed [Jc Js] and won ($101.25) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: superlatif81 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: doggamuffin (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Mc-non showed [3c 5c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 5: Melberg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Razzagon folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[gabe]

yea, but i would probably just call with 88 and re-evaluate

[aislephive]

I would usually just call here and jam a safe turn. Some villains I fold the flop against and some I might just shove.

[Robert]

Massimo,

Mostly I would just call the flop and revaluate turn. Folding flop aint terrible either. If opp is a known donk I think pushing is allright though, cuz he'll call with a wide range of hands here.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I just think a flop push is more likely to get a call from a mid pair than a turn push. But, the turn will most likely bring a good card where my EV increases a lot.

Turn push better then i guess.