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  1. #1

    Default A few hand histories, what does villain have?

    Hand 1:
    POKERSTARS GAME : HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) -
    Table 'Merope II' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: Bluesman ($271.20 in chips)
    Seat 2: GuiltyOJ ($64.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: Vipercheers ($159.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: hero ($518.20 in chips)
    Seat 5: brooklyncyc ($101.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: rukrazy2 ($578.65 in chips)
    Seat 7: redargoe ($200 in chips)
    Seat 8: villain ($198 in chips)
    Seat 9: jpremiere ($403.40 in chips)
    rukrazy2: posts small blind $1
    redargoe: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero (6C 6D)
    villain: raises $6 to $8
    jpremiere: folds
    Bluesman: folds
    GuiltyOJ: folds
    Vipercheers: folds
    hero: calls $8
    brooklyncyc: folds
    rukrazy2: folds
    redargoe: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4h 9c 5d]
    villain: bets $10
    rukrazy2 is sitting out
    hero: calls $10
    *** TURN *** [4h 9c 5d] [8c]
    villain: bets $20
    hero: calls $20
    *** RIVER *** [4h 9c 5d 8c] [9s]
    villain: bets $60
    hero ??

    Hand 2:
    POKERSTARS GAME : HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) -
    Table 'Erato IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: villain ($191.80 in chips)
    Seat 2: corona_light ($257.30 in chips)
    Seat 3: Teadus ($38.90 in chips)
    Seat 4: TheYeti ($297.95 in chips)
    Seat 5: hingham10 ($179.15 in chips)
    Seat 6: Raaif ($322.05 in chips)
    Seat 7: thorladen ($196 in chips)
    Seat 9: hero ($202.20 in chips)
    hero: posts small blind $1
    villain: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hero [QD AC]
    corona_light: folds
    Teadus: folds
    TheYeti: folds
    hingham10: calls $2
    Raaif: folds
    thorladen: folds
    Hero: calls $1
    villain: checks
    *** FLOP *** [As Kh 6c]
    Hero: bets $6
    villain: raises $6 to $12
    hingham10: folds
    hero: calls $6
    *** TURN *** [As Kh 6c] [Ad]
    hero: checks
    villain: bets $16
    hero: calls $16
    *** RIVER *** [As Kh 6c Ad] [6d]
    hero: checks
    villain: bets $161.80 and is all-in
    hero???

    Hand 3:
    POKERSTARS GAME : HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) -
    Table 'Adhafera III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: stallionh ($180.95 in chips)
    Seat 2: bn2b ($41 in chips)
    Seat 3: hero ($202.70 in chips)
    Seat 5: 33 x2b ($190.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: villain ($235.25 in chips)
    Seat 7: stella63 ($178.95 in chips)
    Seat 8: lucasino ($242.40 in chips)
    Seat 9: BlakeLovely3 ($261.90 in chips)
    33 x2b: posts small blind $1
    stella63 said, "COUCOU"
    villain: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to hero [KC AD]
    MARVS has returned
    stella63: folds
    lucasino: folds
    BlakeLovely3: folds
    stallionh: folds
    bn2b: folds
    hero: raises $6 to $8
    33 x2b: folds
    villain: calls $6
    *** FLOP *** [2s As 7d]
    villain: checks
    MARVS said, "coucou?"
    hero: bets $10
    villain: raises $10 to $20
    hero: calls $10
    *** TURN *** [2s As 7d] [Qh]
    villain: bets $40
    hero: calls $40
    *** RIVER *** [2s As 7d Qh] [Ah]
    villain: checks
    stella63 said, "COMMENT VA ?"
    hero ??
  2. #2
    All that time to convert your name to hero and you still miss the very first time your name is mentioned. As for the hands, I'm not qualified to answer.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    All that time to convert your name to hero and you still miss the very first time your name is mentioned. As for the hands, I'm not qualified to answer.
    TY and changed. Any comments?
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    Any comments?
    1: fold turn, def. fold river after not folding turn. He raised UTG and I'm inclined to give a second barrell from UTG credit.

    2: I think it's close but I don't like risking that much just to get my money back. He's not bluffing here.

    3: I bet $80 and call a push(duh).
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    Hand #1 fold on the turn,

    Hand #2 call, if you get beat by pocket kings giving a better FH or quads oh well.

    Hand #3 exercise extreme caution as that could be a poison card that gives him a FH. I would be concerned about paying off a set turned fh here. I think he has you on an ace here and is reeling you in...
  6. #6
    Hand 1: I'm gonna say a set, but obvious fold.
    Hand 2: If he is smart, this is 66. If he's a donk, it's probably any ace. I really think this is a fold.
    Hand 3: $65, im guessing a missed flush draw. My next guess is AJ.

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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by mixchange
    Hand #2 call, if you get beat by pocket kings giving a better FH or quads oh well.
    I've heard of stars being rigged, but a worse full house beating a better one?[/b]
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Hand 1: I'm gonna say a set, but obvious fold.
    Hand 2: If he is smart, this is 66. If he's a donk, it's probably any ace. I really think this is a fold.
    Hand 3: $65, im guessing a missed flush draw. My next guess is AJ.

    Am I right?
    I will let you know after a few more responses.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by dpe8598
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Hand 1: I'm gonna say a set, but obvious fold.
    Hand 2: If he is smart, this is 66. If he's a donk, it's probably any ace. I really think this is a fold.
    Hand 3: $65, im guessing a missed flush draw. My next guess is AJ.

    Am I right?
    I will let you know after a few more responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by dpe8598
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Hand 1: I'm gonna say a set, but obvious fold.
    Hand 2: If he is smart, this is 66. If he's a donk, it's probably any ace. I really think this is a fold.
    Hand 3: $65, im guessing a missed flush draw. My next guess is AJ.

    Am I right?
    I will let you know after a few more responses.
    No one else is going to post, tell me how ballin I am.
    OK, I was villain in all three hands. I posted myself as villain because I think people usually give the most objective opinion about villains hands.

    Hand 1: I had AK, I don't run this line a lot, but the player was showing no resistance and occasionally I nearly pot the river here. Villain folded. I don't know for sure he had 66, but thats what he said when he folded.

    Hand 2: I had the quads here and villain called. I was wondering how many people would call this. This is a tough hand from villains perspective I think, because at best he is looking to split and I could easily have AK.

    Hand 3: Here, I had PP 44 and I was trying to take it down on flop and turn. I dont like the way I played this hand and not just because of the results, but because my flop reraise was really weak, which didnt tell me much about his hand. By the way, villain checked and took down the pot.
  11. #11
    Anyway, appreciate the responses. I may post some more like these, because I want to see how transparent my lines are. Sometimes its tough to imagine how other people will see your lines.
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    Oh, I didn't understand that you were Villan. What were the results?
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Oh, I didn't understand that you were Villan. What were the results?
    You were not supposed to know that. I posted the results a few posts up. By the way, in those posts when I discuss villain I meant the other player. Sorry to switch it around.
  14. #14
    Good idea to post hands as villain!

    I wondered all the time why u were not folding
    with 66

    Hand 2 would have been fold for me. AQ is not so
    hot with that kind of play. I suspected AK more.
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    hand1 is spewage a lot on stars imo, but you might get folds considering position+action.
    hand2 is very good actually IMO. I dont think id fold a boat here, but the more i look at this the more i might just find a fold. I think an ordinary 200nl player needs an ungodly read to fold here.
    hand3 is great for your table image. Shame you didnt get a river spade to buy the pot but i like what you are trying to acheive here. You'll stack this guy at some point when he cant fold his ace, top kicker.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    hand 2 is seriously an easy fold with AQ. you are just praying he's got AK. it's still a good play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    hand1 is spewage a lot on stars imo, but you might get folds considering position+action.
    hand2 is very good actually IMO. I dont think id fold a boat here, but the more i look at this the more i might just find a fold. I think an ordinary 200nl player needs an ungodly read to fold here.
    hand3 is great for your table image. Shame you didnt get a river spade to buy the pot but i like what you are trying to acheive here. You'll stack this guy at some point when he cant fold his ace, top kicker.
    Yawn, I love how you waited to post until after you knew I was villain. Obviously it isn't spewage, because everyone who thought I was hero said they would fold. This is why I wanted posts before I said I was villain.

    Nonetheless, I admit that if this is a regular line for you then it is trouble. I think my image is that I am pretty loosy goosy, but I only bet into deep streets if I'm really strong. I typically give up on the flop w/ air, but occasionally I run this line and I think its definitely +ev
  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    hand 2 is seriously an easy fold with AQ. you are just praying he's got AK. it's still a good play.
    I don't know, I think its pretty tough depending on the read. Lets say we do put him on Ax, then is there a better amount to bet? My reasoning was that if he had an A and he was willing to call a pot bet, he will probably suck it up and call the stack. Maybe not, how much would you bet if you were 80% sure based on various reasons that he has AQ or lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpe8598
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    hand1 is spewage a lot on stars imo, but you might get folds considering position+action.
    hand2 is very good actually IMO. I dont think id fold a boat here, but the more i look at this the more i might just find a fold. I think an ordinary 200nl player needs an ungodly read to fold here.
    hand3 is great for your table image. Shame you didnt get a river spade to buy the pot but i like what you are trying to acheive here. You'll stack this guy at some point when he cant fold his ace, top kicker.
    Yawn, I love how you waited to post until after you knew I was villain. Obviously it isn't spewage, because everyone who thought I was hero said they would fold. This is why I wanted posts before I said I was villain.

    Nonetheless, I admit that if this is a regular line for you then it is trouble. I think my image is that I am pretty loosy goosy, but I only bet into deep streets if I'm really strong. I typically give up on the flop w/ air, but occasionally I run this line and I think its definitely +ev
    sry, i tend to look at the OP and post my opinions then read down to what others said on your hand. You either had a monter or air in the hand you spoke of, i just liked what you were obviously doing against players who like their hands versus action too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    sry, i tend to look at the OP and post my opinions then read down to what others said on your hand. You either had a monter or air in the hand you spoke of, i just liked what you were obviously doing against players who like their hands versus action too much.
    I hear ya, by the way, I posted this hand because I was iffy about it at first. But ultimately, I think you simply have to run bluffs like you do your monsters sometimes. This is almost exactly how I would play a really big hand and you've gotta run similar lines w/ your bluffs on rare occasions. By the way, I'm about to post another similar post, would love your input.

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