OSU vs Michigan

[swiggidy]

deja vu

[givememyleg]

cool

michigan wins i bet

[WildBobAA]

Hmm, if Florida blows out arkansas, it could get interesting...

[ensign_lee]

GO playoffs!

And, just for you swiggidy, go Ohio State? (blech. yuch. My poor Longhorns...)

[swiggidy]

go Ohio State

[takesix]

Hmm, if Florida blows out arkansas, it could get interesting...

lol special teamaments?

[WildBobAA]

At this point, i think florida is going

[takesix]

At this point, i think florida is going

If they had blown Arkansas out they might have, but that didn't happen, and my money is on part II.

[Lukie]

Florida plays in the toughest conference in college football. Michigan already lost to Ohio State.

It should be OSU vs Florida for the championship.

[a500lbgorilla]

Florida plays in the toughest conference in college football. Michigan already lost to Ohio State.

It should be OSU vs Florida for the championship.

Scared?

[Lukie]

Florida plays in the toughest conference in college football. Michigan already lost to Ohio State.

It should be OSU vs Florida for the championship.

Scared?

no, why?

[WildBobAA]

If Michigan played Florida on a neutral field, Michigan would be favored by 6 points. (from sportscenter)

[WildBobAA]

The two best teams should play for the championship, regardless if they have already played in the regular season. Does anyone really want to watch Florida get blown out by 20?

[Lukie]

I live in Michigan, the worst state in the country. As such, I will make any argument necessary for my team to have a shot at the national championship, despite there being a team that clearly deserves it more

[WildBobAA]

If they "clearly" deserved it more, there wouldn't be any controversy. mmmmk?

Try making an actual argument instead of a personal attack next time thnx.

[a500lbgorilla]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

[WildBobAA]

Florida plays in the toughest conference in college football. Michigan already lost to Ohio State.

Over the course of the season, Michigan was a much more consistent football team than Florida. For much of the 2nd half of the season, Florida struggled against much weaker competition. Michigan has one loss, and it was at the #1 team in the nation by 3 points. Florida lost to an overrated Auburn team.

It should be Michigan vs OSU for the championship (althought I think it will be Florida)

[a500lbgorilla]

on the flip side though, it shouldn't matter how you win if you win.

An SEC champion deserves to be in the Natl Championship game.

And the Michigan loss was still a sound loss. Two turnovers of fucked up snaps and Michigan was basically behind by 10 points the entire game with Troy Smith having a quick answer for everything. The possessions just worked out to a 3 pt difference.

[WildBobAA]

Yea well, I'd take a loss to OSU over a loss to Auburn.

The point of all this is that the BCS is fucked.

[WildBobAA]

Here's an instresting espn insider article that makes be believe florida will be selected

ichigan or Florida? That is the question.

After USC's loss to UCLA, it's a two-team race for the right to play Ohio State for the national title.

Florida is likely to have a slight advantage over Michigan in the final computer ratings, but the fates of these teams ultimately will be decided by the opinions of 177 voters on Sunday (114 in the Harris poll, 63 in the coaches' poll). A week ago, those voters clearly considered the Wolverines to be the better of the two teams: Michigan held an 86-point advantage in the Harris poll and a 40-point edge in the coaches' poll.

Did Florida do enough in its 38-28 win over Arkansas to change that? It might not be that simple.

While some voters will evaluate the Gators and Wolverines on their bodies of work throughout the season -- or simply go with the team they believe would win a head-to-head meeting -- other ballots could be influenced by knowing that Ohio State has already earned a spot in the championship game.

There is definitely some sentiment against an OSU-Michigan rematch that could lead voters to rank Florida second, even if they believe Michigan might be better. There is also a school of thought that a team shouldn't play for the national title if it didn't win its conference championship. The more people in either of those camps, the better it is for the Gators.

On the flip side, there will likely be voters who question whether Florida could play a competitive game against Ohio State, which Michigan proved it could do on Nov. 18.

If this vote becomes just as much about factors related to the Buckeyes as it is about whether Florida or Michigan did more this season to deserve a spot in the title game, then we have yet another problem with the BCS system. Voters should be trying their best to identify the top two teams rather than attempting to orchestrate a desired matchup in the championship game.

Either way this goes, a very deserving team will be left out of the BCS title game … and we'll never know how fairly the odd man out was evaluated.

BCS Matchups Coming Into Focus
Here's what we learned on Saturday. USC will be playing in the Rose Bowl presented by Citi. Notre Dame almost certainly will be playing in the Allstate Sugar Bowl. LSU probably has locked up the final BCS at-large spot (after Boise State, Michigan and Notre Dame). Also, Wake Forest will be FedEx Orange Bowl bound as the ACC champion, and Oklahoma will head to the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl as Big 12 champ.

The selection process works like this. The top two teams in the final BCS standings are slotted in the national title game. Pac-10 champ USC is assigned to the Rose Bowl, ACC champ Wake Forest is given to the Orange, and Big 12 champion Oklahoma goes to the Fiesta. If Florida is not ranked No. 2, the Gators will play in the Sugar Bowl.

The Rose Bowl -- by virtue of losing the No. 1 team in the standings (Big Ten winner Ohio State) -- would get to pick first. If Florida finishes second, the Sugar Bowl will get the next pick to replace the SEC champ. The Sugar then picks again, followed by the Orange. Finally, the Fiesta Bowl gets whatever team remains in the pool.

If Michigan is the No. 2 team in the BCS, there will not be a Big Ten team available to play Pac-10 champion USC in the Rose Bowl. Wisconsin is off limits because the BCS doesn't allow a conference to have more than two teams. The Rose is not interested in a rematch of Notre Dame and USC, so the selection would likely be LSU. That would allow the Sugar to grab Notre Dame and set up a meeting of the man who turned down the Irish (Urban Meyer) and the man who got the Notre Dame job because of it (Charlie Weis).

If Florida is the No. 2 team, the Rose Bowl will preserve its Pac-10 vs Big Ten matchup by having USC and Michigan go head-to-head. That will allow the Sugar Bowl to use two at-large picks on LSU and Notre Dame. The Orange and Fiesta bowls should stay the same under either scenario.

BCS Bowl Projections
If Michigan finishes No. 2
BCS title game: Ohio State vs Michigan
Rose Bowl: USC vs LSU
Sugar Bowl: Florida vs Notre Dame
Orange Bowl: Wake Forest vs Louisville
Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs Boise State

If Florida Finishes No. 2
BCS title game: Ohio State vs Florida
Rose Bowl: USC vs Michigan
Sugar Bowl: LSU vs Notre Dame
Orange Bowl: Wake Forest vs Louisville
Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs Boise State

[Lukie]

wildbob, do you at least agree that florida had a much tougher schedule in the SEC then michigan did in the big 10? I mean, I'm an OSU die-hard and have the big 10 conference loyalty and all, but the SEC is straight up stacked this year.

[WildBobAA]

Yes, I agree that Florida had a tougher schedule and that top to bottom SEC > Big Ten. But it's not like Michigan had an easy schedule. If you go by winning percentages, Florida had the 1st hardest schedule and Michigan had the 3rd hardest schedule in the nation.

[WildBobAA]

I also believe that if Florida and Michigan played on a neutral field, Michigan would win.

[WildBobAA]

The LATimes has reported that Florida is in.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/colleg...home-headlines

OSU is gonna win by at least 20 points

[Sprayed]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

You underestimate the fans of OSU. OSU is cheered for like an NFL team. You don't have to go to school there to be a fan. All you have to be is from Ohio. The town of Columbus shuts down when there’s a game. People in Ohio live for OSU football. They're not fair weather fans like some other collegiate fans. They will cheer for them no matter what. They weren't supposed to be very good this year considering that they lost almost all of their defensive starters. What is different at OSU is Tressel. Tressel will not allow a losing season. Yes they might lose a couple next year but not 4 or 5.

As for playing Michigan again, bring it on. I don't care who we play. We match-up better than any team out there. The field in Arizona isn't that neutral. It's been OSU's winter home for past few years.

[WildBobAA]

What do you mean they weren't supposed to be good this year? They were the preseason #1 by far in both polls.

Also, everything you said about Columbus is also true about Ann Arbor.

[Sprayed]

What do you mean they weren't supposed to be good this year? They were the preseason #1 by far in both polls.

Also, everything you said about Columbus is also true about Ann Arbor.

I meant as far as being weak on D and the experts saying that they might not be as good as their preseason ranking. The preseason ranking doesn't really mean too much.

I know that about Ann Arbor and that is why I think that most don't understand the rivalry and the meaning of the game for the residents of both towns. I have a lot of respect for Michigan because of the similarities of both schools. With that said F Michigan!

[a500lbgorilla]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

You underestimate the fans of OSU. OSU is cheered for like an NFL team. You don't have to go to school there to be a fan. All you have to be is from Ohio. The town of Columbus shuts down when there’s a game. People in Ohio live for OSU football. They're not fair weather fans like some other collegiate fans. They will cheer for them no matter what. They weren't supposed to be very good this year considering that they lost almost all of their defensive starters. What is different at OSU is Tressel. Tressel will not allow a losing season. Yes they might lose a couple next year but not 4 or 5.

As for playing Michigan again, bring it on. I don't care who we play. We match-up better than any team out there. The field in Arizona isn't that neutral. It's been OSU's winter home for past few years.

The only reason there fan base is so huge is becuase they're a perrienial (spelling,lazy) powerhouse. And only someone NOT from the school would make the point that you don't have to go there. Winners attract their own fans, especially when professional sports state-wide are a laughing-stock.

I just don't like fans of OSU who dont go to OSU becuase when you boil it down, they're fans becuase its the best team around not becuase it's their alma-mater/town/father's college... etc.

You can be a fan, but OSU has ravenous idiot fans who cheer becuase everyone else in ohio cheers for them becuase they win. And the fans that don't go to school, they don't respect the school they just want the school to win.

And I don't underestimate OSU fans, Hokie fans cheer for the Hokies like an NFL team. Our stadium is tiny but would probably be a very comparable atmosphere for a big game. Except we try to be respectful. OSU fans try to be mentally and sometimes probably physically belligerent to Mich fans, something that is absolutely disgusting.

"[Lane Stadium] was rated as the "number one home field advantage" in all of college football in 2005 by Rivals.com." according to wikipedia. A year where Marcus Vick permenantly made our school a "thug school" the fans were still rowdy and respectful enough to pull in such an honor.

OSU's fan base is watered down with people who just want to get drunk and cheer for a winner.

[a500lbgorilla]

The LATimes has reported that Florida is in.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/colleg...home-headlines

OSU is gonna win by at least 20 points

Sucks, but was the right result. After Auburn fiasco and this pile of horseshit, i hope the BCS gets the axe.

[a500lbgorilla]

"1. Lane Stadium (Virginia Tech)
Lane Stadium in Blacksburg, Va., doesn't blow people away by the brute strength of a massive stadium, but with knowledgeable fans that always reach a frenzied pitch at the right time, the Hokies make the most of their numbers.

Every good stadium has at least one end designed for deafening noise levels, and the enclosed South End Zone at Lane Stadium fits the bill perfectly. Holding more than 11,000 screaming Virginia Tech fans, the section amplifies noise and renders audibles useless. That's not to mention the isolation factor. With the nearest major airport nearly 45 minutes away, opponents' fans are never out in force at Lane Stadium.

The X-factor: Beamer Ball
The hard-nosed Hokies are never outhustled. With the most intense special teams unit in college football year-in and year-out -- not to mention the defense's penchant for scoring points -- there's never a dull moment at a game in Blacksburg.
Capacity: 66,233"

This is why i am really proud of VT fans and don't think OSU being watered down by "outsiders" will ever be as great.

"3. Ohio Stadium (Ohio State)
The Horseshoe is easily one of the most recognizable venues in college football. It's actually listed in the National Registry of Historic Places. More than just a landmark, though, The Horseshoe's double-deck design keeps the fans close to the field and amplifies the sound in the stadium. The Block "O" student section on the enclosed side is absolutely deafening, even during less important games.

Gamedays at Ohio State have it all – the tailgating, The Best Damn Band in the Land and the tens of thousands of frenzied fans build one of the richest traditions in American sports. And when it all comes together inside the stadium, the Buckeyes' have one of the largest and most intimidating home crowds in college football.

The X-factor: The Pride of the Buckeyes
Ohio State's 225-member all-brass marching band, dates all the way back to 1879. Perhaps best known for Script Ohio and the dotting of the 'i,' few bands can fire up both the players and the fans like the Buckeyes'.
Capacity: 102,329"

Maybe jealousy at the brute force that OSU can bring in, but at almost half the capacity we still fucking rock.

[Sprayed]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

You underestimate the fans of OSU. OSU is cheered for like an NFL team. You don't have to go to school there to be a fan. All you have to be is from Ohio. The town of Columbus shuts down when there’s a game. People in Ohio live for OSU football. They're not fair weather fans like some other collegiate fans. They will cheer for them no matter what. They weren't supposed to be very good this year considering that they lost almost all of their defensive starters. What is different at OSU is Tressel. Tressel will not allow a losing season. Yes they might lose a couple next year but not 4 or 5.

As for playing Michigan again, bring it on. I don't care who we play. We match-up better than any team out there. The field in Arizona isn't that neutral. It's been OSU's winter home for past few years.

The only reason there fan base is so huge is becuase they're a perrienial (spelling,lazy) powerhouse. And only someone NOT from the school would make the point that you don't have to go there. Winners attract their own fans, especially when professional sports state-wide are a laughing-stock.

I just don't like fans of OSU who dont go to OSU becuase when you boil it down, they're fans becuase its the best team around not becuase it's their alma-mater/town/father's college... etc.

You can be a fan, but OSU has ravenous idiot fans who cheer becuase everyone else in ohio cheers for them becuase they win. And the fans that don't go to school, they don't respect the school they just want the school to win.

And I don't underestimate OSU fans, Hokie fans cheer for the Hokies like an NFL team. Our stadium is tiny but would probably be a very comparable atmosphere for a big game. Except we try to be respectful. OSU fans try to be mentally and sometimes probably physically belligerent to Mich fans, something that is absolutely disgusting.

"[Lane Stadium] was rated as the "number one home field advantage" in all of college football in 2005 by Rivals.com." according to wikipedia. A year where Marcus Vick permenantly made our school a "thug school" the fans were still rowdy and respectful enough to pull in such an honor.

OSU's fan base is watered down with people who just want to get drunk and cheer for a winner.

Where do you get your facts from to base your feels about OSU fans? I can tell you this, I never went to the school (however my mom and dad are alum) and I am 32 years old. I have been a fan since knee high to a grasshopper. I watched and rooted for the Bucks through the agonizing years of the Cooper era. I went to games and bought OSU merchandise. I can tell you since I grew-up 45 min. from Columbus that the feelings that I had were mutual amongst the residents of Ohio. Btw, it's not necessarily about winning the most games per year it's all about beating Michigan. That is why Cooper is not well liked in Ohio.

I hear you talking about the other teams in Ohio and it sounds as if you are saying there isn't anything else to cheer about. I lived in Cleveland for 5 years through the best and worst of times of the Indians, Browns, and Cavs. That city loves those teams no matter what their record is. Same goes for the Bengals and Reds in Cincy. I have friends and family in Cincy and that's all they talk about besides the Bucks of course.

Back to OSU though, I hope you're not saying that people don't go to other collegiate games and not look forward to drinking because that's ridiculous. Drinking and watching football is like pees and carrots. Yes, there are some people that go to the game and act like an ass. But let me ask you this, do you think that this doesn't happen at other schools? I can tell you it does because I had batteries thrown at me and I was spit on in Ann Arbor. I went to and OSU Michigan game there and I thought that I was going to get killed. Shit happens and that's college football for ya.

Just don't be a hater of something that you have no experience or clue about. You don’t hear me spouting off about your Hokies even though I lived in Roanoke for awhile. I never drove the short miles to see a game or the town of Blacksburg. I heard it was nice though. The only thing negative that I can say is that your VT uniforms need some work. Chicago maroon and burnt orange? Blah.

People are going to cheer for the teams of the state that they are from or have some sort of connection to. No crime there and more power to them.

GO BUCKS!

[Lukie]

If they "clearly" deserved it more, there wouldn't be any controversy. mmmmk?

Try making an actual argument instead of a personal attack next time thnx.

lol, way to take my obvious joke well. Michigan just played Ohio State, and lost. I just do not see why they deserve a rematch, honestly.

[Lukie]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

I've heard you (and others) say that since I didn't go to OSU, I shouldn't be a fan. I just don't get it. I've been an OSU fan my entire life and the rest of the post is just 'lol'. meh, whatever. If you think going to a school makes someone a bigger fan of a team then someone who has followed them their entire life then I guess that is your opinion and one that I would not agree with.

By the way, I live 15 miles from Cleveland Browns Stadium. I've also watched the browns my entire life. Then again, you also knew this as well so I don't know why I don't have an NFL team to cheer for. If I got 3rd leveled and your point was that the browns are atrocious, I would agree, but doesn't that work against your argument that I'm a fair-weather fan given that I havn't missed watching a game yet this year? holla

[swiggidy]

Well this thread is pointless now that Florida got the bid.

We need to find GatorGH and start a pissing contest with him

[WildBobAA]

OSU by 40

[swiggidy]

I'm definitely rooting for Michigan to stomp the shit out of USC

[bigred]

hehehe, booty

[drmcboy]

easy way to spot a bandwagon OSU fan:

You "Bellisari"

Real OSU fan: $%^(&*#%$&*@)%$)@#(&^$)(@&*$

Bandwagonner: Anything else.

[WildBobAA]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...ene&id=2685195

[bigred]

easy way to spot a bandwagon OSU fan:

You "Bellisari"

Real OSU fan: $%^(&*#%$&*@)%$)@#(&^$)(@&*$

Bandwagonner: Anything else.

explain

[Lukie]

easy way to spot a bandwagon OSU fan:

You "Bellisari"

Real OSU fan: $%^(&*#%$&*@)%$)@#(&^$)(@&*$

Bandwagonner: Anything else.

explain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bellisari

[WildBobAA]

No one is talking about Wisconsin in this whole mess. They are 7th in the BCS but aren't allowed to go to a BCS game because two teams already in the conference have BCS bids. Instead, two loss Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC, and Wake Forest get bids. This system is flawed on so many levels.

[bigred]

we need playoffs

[Lukie]

No one is talking about Wisconsin in this whole mess. They are 7th in the BCS but aren't allowed to go to a BCS game because two teams already in the conference have BCS bids. Instead, two loss Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC, and Wake Forest get bids. This system is flawed on so many levels.

I don't think anybody is disputing this.

[a500lbgorilla]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

I've heard you (and others) say that since I didn't go to OSU, I shouldn't be a fan. I just don't get it. I've been an OSU fan my entire life and the rest of the post is just 'lol'. meh, whatever. If you think going to a school makes someone a bigger fan of a team then someone who has followed them their entire life then I guess that is your opinion and one that I would not agree with.

By the way, I live 15 miles from Cleveland Browns Stadium. I've also watched the browns my entire life. Then again, you also knew this as well so I don't know why I don't have an NFL team to cheer for. If I got 3rd leveled and your point was that the browns are atrocious, I would agree, but doesn't that work against your argument that I'm a fair-weather fan given that I havn't missed watching a game yet this year? holla

I did not say that going to the school makes you a bigger fan. But it does make you respect the team and town more becuase how the fans act reflect your school. So all the drunken idiots that throw crap at Michigan fans but didn't go to school at OSU reflect poorly on those that did go.

And I didn't say you were a fair-weather fan in its main meaning. I meant, if OSU wasn't the best team around, they would not have fans. If VT sucked, they would still have mostly the same fans.

You became an OSU fan for life becuase your family probably loved them. They loved them becuase they won football games. So at it's core, the whole things starts becuase they wanted someone to cheer for that wins football games.

[Lukie]

Basically, you're saying that OSU has a very large fan-base because they have a long history of success. It's kind of hard to dispute that. I don't really see your point though, to be honest.

Keep in mind that it's also historically been the biggest university in the country, although I'm not sure if that's true anymore.

[Sprayed]

[quote="a500lbgorilla"]

I live in Ohio and have nothing but a college football team for which to cheer. No I did not go to the school and yes, i only cheer for them becuase they win and probably don't even mind if they have a 4 or 5 loss season next year.

I've heard you (and others) say that since I didn't go to OSU, I shouldn't be a fan. I just don't get it. I've been an OSU fan my entire life and the rest of the post is just 'lol'. meh, whatever. If you think going to a school makes someone a bigger fan of a team then someone who has followed them their entire life then I guess that is your opinion and one that I would not agree with.

By the way, I live 15 miles from Cleveland Browns Stadium. I've also watched the browns my entire life. Then again, you also knew this as well so I don't know why I don't have an NFL team to cheer for. If I got 3rd leveled and your point was that the browns are atrocious, I would agree, but doesn't that work against your argument that I'm a fair-weather fan given that I havn't missed watching a game yet this year? holla

I did not say that going to the school makes you a bigger fan. But it does make you respect the team and town more becuase how the fans act reflect your school. So all the drunken idiots that throw crap at Michigan fans but didn't go to school at OSU reflect poorly on those that did go.
[quote]

I totally agree and it's unfortunate. However, most of these idiots that do this are also students. But, I think that we are talking about the past a little here. My experience at the OSU vs. Michigan game this year was a little surprising. I was expecting cars destroyed and house items being burned in the streets. It didn't happen like previous years. Even when we won in previous years chaos erupted. I didn't see any fights with Michigan fans nor hear of any. I'm sure it happened somewhere but the atmosphere was entirely different.

[Sprayed]

OSU by 40

Let's hope so. My feelings are that this could be like OSU in 2002 against Miami. I am not counting out Florida and I hope that Tressel doesn't take them lightly which I don't think that he will.

[Sprayed]

I'm definitely rooting for Michigan to stomp the shit out of USC

It hurts for me to root for Michigan but come bowl games I root for all Big Ten teams.

[Sprayed]

No one is talking about Wisconsin in this whole mess. They are 7th in the BCS but aren't allowed to go to a BCS game because two teams already in the conference have BCS bids. Instead, two loss Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC, and Wake Forest get bids. This system is flawed on so many levels.

I don't think anybody is disputing this.

The BCS definately sucks.

[swiggidy]

I meant, if OSU wasn't the best team around, they would not have fans. If VT sucked, they would still have mostly the same fans.

This is not remotely true either. Football is huge in Ohio, HUGE. High school games regularly sell out. The Browns sell out with a history of loosing. People are Akron U and Kent State football fans, and they have a history of failure.

Ohio loves football, OSU would still have a ton of passionate fans simply because of the high number of alumni. Also, our QB, WR and RBs are all from Ohio, in addition to the entire DL and OL. Homegrown players will generate additional interest.

And, yes, OSU and University of Texas are still the biggest two universities. The flip back and forth for the biggest I believe.

[gabe]

rilla no way.....half the kids i know only went to VT because they thought michael vick was sweet and now they think theyve been VT fans all their life

[a500lbgorilla]

maybe im wrong. In which case, i have an inexplicable distaste for people who cheer for OSU but did not go or have family that went.

[a500lbgorilla]

Florida can not win this football game.

[Sprayed]

Florida can not win this football game.

I want to say, now you speak quotable truth, but I'm afraid that I would jinx the Bucks. I think that you are trying to play us to say "Damn Str8 Mother Fucker!" and then if the worst were to happen you would come back to this thread and kick our asses. Am I right?

[Eric]

The BCS is lame. I heard Michigan would be a 6 point favorite over Floriday if they played...

[Sprayed]

I meant, if OSU wasn't the best team around, they would not have fans. If VT sucked, they would still have mostly the same fans.

This is not remotely true either. Football is huge in Ohio, HUGE. High school games regularly sell out. The Browns sell out with a history of loosing. People are Akron U and Kent State football fans, and they have a history of failure.

Ohio loves football, OSU would still have a ton of passionate fans simply because of the high number of alumni. Also, our QB, WR and RBs are all from Ohio, in addition to the entire DL and OL. Homegrown players will generate additional interest.

And, yes, OSU and University of Texas are still the biggest two universities. The flip back and forth for the biggest I believe.

I am an alumnus of the University of Akron. Home of the Zips and they gave birth to Charlie Frye and Jason Taylor. One is doing better than the other. Anyways, I can tell you that football is king there as well as basketball. MAC teams are fun to watch because they can put up some #'s. Here is some useful information. Where was the zipper invented? Don’t ask me why their mascot is an oversized kangaroo.

But, I can also tell you that most of the students that go to these schools would give up their tickets to a Zips game in a heartbeat to go see a game at the Shoe. The Bucks come first. You may ask, “If people are such a huge fan of the Bucks why did they go to other schools”? Very simple, the other schools may specialize in a field better than OSU or they simply couldn't get into OSU due to grades and these other schools had open enrollment or something. Most of the population in Ohio is blue collar and some are unable to go to college because of grades or money. That doesn't mean they can't be a fan.

I believe that OSU still holds the record for the largest college library in the nation.

rilla, next year you should come-up for one game just to see what it's like. Most people just go for the tailgating. You don't even need to have a ticket. I'm not trying to pull you to the dark side, I just think that you need to see it for yourself in order to have true perspective.

[Lukie]

maybe im wrong. In which case, i have an inexplicable distaste for people who cheer for OSU but did not go or have family that went.

so being a fan all your life and having family (not immediate family-- cousins and an uncle) that went doesn't count?

[bode]

maybe im wrong. In which case, i have an inexplicable distaste for people who cheer for OSU but did not go or have family that went.

so being a fan all your life and having family (not immediate family-- cousins and an uncle) that went doesn't count?

yeah, im in the same boat. born and lived 12 years in ohio, had OSU shit when i wasnt even 1 year old yet, and ive been a fan all my life. So rilla is saying that because i didnt go there, and because my mom and dad didnt go there (although about 2/3 of the rest of my family did), that i cant be a fan?

this may be the worst logic/argument ever

[bode]

also, my cousin (brian billick) is the coach of the Baltimore ravens. since i dont live in baltimore, i guess ill have to tell him to keep the tickets from now on because im not allowed to be a fan.

[swiggidy]

also, my cousin (brian billick) is the coach of the Baltimore ravens. since i dont live in baltimore, i guess ill have to tell him to keep the tickets from now on because im not allowed to be a fan.

Actually you're not allowed to be a Raven's fan if you live in Ohio.

You can still take free tickets to the game though. It's also cool that you're related to a head coach.

[ensign_lee]

Basically, you're saying that OSU has a very large fan-base because they have a long history of success. It's kind of hard to dispute that. I don't really see your point though, to be honest.

Keep in mind that it's also historically been the biggest university in the country, although I'm not sure if that's true anymore.

UT pwns you. That is all.

[ensign_lee]

also, my cousin (brian billick) is the coach of the Baltimore ravens. since i dont live in baltimore, i guess ill have to tell him to keep the tickets from now on because im not allowed to be a fan.

You're so full of crap it'snot even funny.

Although on the off chance that you're not lying, can I have tickets? Please?

[swiggidy]

UT pwns you. That is all.

Like (UT vs OSU):
student population: 49,696 vs 51,818
campus size (acres): 850 vs 1755
or football score: 7 vs 24

I wasn't sure which one was pwning?

[Lukie]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOM! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bode]

UT pwns you. That is all.

Like (UT vs OSU):
student population: 49,696 vs 51,818
campus size (acres): 850 vs 1755
or football score: 7 vs 24

I wasn't sure which one was pwning?

very nice!!

[bode]

also, my cousin (brian billick) is the coach of the Baltimore ravens. since i dont live in baltimore, i guess ill have to tell him to keep the tickets from now on because im not allowed to be a fan.

You're so full of crap it'snot even funny.

Although on the off chance that you're not lying, can I have tickets? Please?

ok, i lied. its my dad's first cousin, so i guess that makes him my 2nd cousin.

[gabe]

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/col...udoc_brief.php

i see texas above ohio state.....screw student counts and campus size

[ensign_lee]

UT pwns you. That is all.

Like (UT vs OSU):
student population: 60,000 vs 51,818
campus size (acres): 850 vs 1755
or football score: 7 vs 24

I wasn't sure which one was pwning?

very nice!!

Wow is that ever wrong. Fixed your post. As far as acreage, who the hell cares? UT is in the middle of an actual city (the Texas state capital), not some podunk college town. If we wanted that crap, we'd be Texas A&M.

Oh: and last year, we beat OSU. Thanks...

[Lukie]

'last year' always holds more weight then 'this year' when it comes to results in sporting events.

[swiggidy]

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php

i see texas above ohio state.....screw student counts and campus size

pwned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...exas_at_Austin
says my number, but whatever

[ensign_lee]

What? Wiki?

Since when does Wiki have accurate, to-date information?

[gabe]

"The 2007 Princeton Review survey ranked the school the #1 party school in the nation. The school ranked second in the use of hard liquor, third in beer drinking and 13th in marijuana smoking in a survey of 115,000 students at campuses around the country.[27] The survey also ranked the school sixth in the category "Their Students (Almost) Never Study".[28]"

[ensign_lee]

'last year' always holds more weight then 'this year' when it comes to results in sporting events.

Well, for the record, Texas is STILL your defending national champion. For another month, at least. So neener neener neener.

[Sprayed]

UT pwns you. That is all.

Like (UT vs OSU):
student population: 60,000 vs 51,818
campus size (acres): 850 vs 1755
or football score: 7 vs 24

I wasn't sure which one was pwning?

very nice!!

Wow is that ever wrong. Fixed your post. As far as acreage, who the hell cares? UT is in the middle of an actual city (the Texas state capital), not some podunk college town. If we wanted that crap, we'd be Texas A&M.

Oh: and last year, we beat OSU. Thanks...

Where do you think OSU sits within the great state of Ohio? Right smack dab in the middle of Columbus which happens to be the capital of Ohio. Who beat who this year? So what's the point of your post?