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    Default Two shoulda-wouldas?

    Fold and fold?

    {Ill convert these after my session sorry}

    First hand, I hated it.. I've never won in this situation, why would I start now. Have to fold this, right?

    Hand 2: villain is a 40/0 moron, he's been on the verge of bustville six or seven times and I dont hate my call here at all. I figure he'd milk if he had anything worth anything, and figured him for maybe a pair+FD. But I wouldnt be posting if i was right.


    PokerStars Game #7553429652: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/12/22 - 08:37:50 (ET)
    Table 'Heka' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: alelitan ($31.95 in chips)
    Seat 2: Spidiehulk ($9.85 in chips)
    Seat 3: Rob1n ($29.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: euphoricism ($34.15 in chips)
    Seat 5: Zedekiah ($14.60 in chips)
    Seat 6: Golden_sun ($27.75 in chips)
    Rob1n: posts small blind $0.10
    euphoricism: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to euphoricism [9h Ac]
    Zedekiah: folds
    Golden_sun: folds
    alelitan: folds
    Spidiehulk: calls $0.25
    Rob1n: calls $0.15
    euphoricism: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Ad 7s 3d]
    Rob1n: checks
    euphoricism: bets $0.75
    Spidiehulk: calls $0.75
    Rob1n: calls $0.75
    *** TURN *** [Ad 7s 3d] [Ah]
    Rob1n: checks
    euphoricism: bets $2
    Spidiehulk: calls $2
    Rob1n: calls $2
    *** RIVER *** [Ad 7s 3d Ah] [Kh]
    Rob1n: checks
    euphoricism: bets $6
    Spidiehulk: folds
    Rob1n: raises $20.85 to $26.85 and is all-in
    euphoricism: calls $20.85
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Rob1n: shows [As Ts] (three of a kind, Aces)
    euphoricism: mucks hand
    Rob1n collected $59.70 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $62.70 | Rake $3
    Board [Ad 7s 3d Ah Kh]
    Seat 1: alelitan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Spidiehulk (button) folded on the River
    Seat 3: Rob1n (small blind) showed [As Ts] and won ($59.70) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 4: euphoricism (big blind) mucked [9h Ac]
    Seat 5: Zedekiah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Golden_sun folded before Flop (didn't bet)









    PokerStars Game #7553423061: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/12/22 - 08:36:40 (ET)
    Table 'Dolon IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: euphoricism ($27.85 in chips)
    Seat 2: henkham ($16.70 in chips)
    Seat 3: LS2 KLR ($25.35 in chips)
    Seat 4: slydaz ($24.05 in chips)
    Seat 5: doubletake4 ($8.45 in chips)
    Seat 6: Jackal676 ($13.80 in chips)
    LS2 KLR: posts small blind $0.10
    slydaz: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to euphoricism [Qs Qd]
    doubletake4: folds
    Jackal676: folds
    euphoricism: raises $0.75 to $1
    henkham: folds
    LS2 KLR: calls $0.90
    slydaz: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [3d 8d 8c]
    LS2 KLR: bets $1
    slydaz: folds
    euphoricism: calls $1
    *** TURN *** [3d 8d 8c] [9d]
    LS2 KLR: bets $23.35 and is all-in
    euphoricism: calls $23.35
    *** RIVER *** [3d 8d 8c 9d] [9c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    LS2 KLR: shows [5d Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
    euphoricism: mucks hand
    LS2 KLR collected $49.15 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $51.70 | Rake $2.55
    Board [3d 8d 8c 9d 9c]
    Seat 1: euphoricism mucked [Qs Qd]
    Seat 2: henkham (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: LS2 KLR (small blind) showed [5d Ad] and won ($49.15) with a flush, Ace high
    Seat 4: slydaz (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: doubletake4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Jackal676 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  2. #2
    Hand 1: Trips is such an obvious hand (especially with an A) that you wont get 3 streets of value out of it against anyone who doesnt have trips+ and isnt a total moron.
    With this low a kicker Ill check behind on the river against reasonably tight players and make about a half pot value bet against loose players. There are very few players Id call the river raise with since your hand is so transparent.

    "If you have the obvious hand, believe the raiser" - some guy.

    Hand 2: His stats look incredibly passive. Incredibly passive players dont bluff so he probably has either a weaker overpair, flush or trips+ (or maybe AA,KK but these are unlikely. Even passive players tend to raise these). There are way more hands that destroy you so I think its a pretty clear fold.
    gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

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