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  1. #1

    Default QQ, KJ, AT, JJ ($100NL)

    1) He’s 28/20 over 30 hands, no relevant reads. Is it okay to call the turn? What should I be doing on the river?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($122.50)
    MP ($102.35)
    CO ($198.40)
    Button ($128.45)
    SB ($98.20)
    BB ($104.45)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
    Hero raises to $4, MP calls $4, 4 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) 5, 7, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7.5, MP calls $7.50.

    Turn: ($24.50) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $17, MP raises to $40, Hero calls $23.

    River: ($104.50) J (2 players)
    Hero …


    2) No reads. I like a raise preflop rather than my limp on the button. That aside, fold after reraised on the flop?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($262.25)
    SB ($101.85)
    BB ($184.40)
    UTG ($98.50)
    MP ($96.80)
    CO ($100)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K.
    UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($5) J, 2, J (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3, MP folds, Hero raises to $9, SB folds, BB folds, UTG raises to $30, Hero …


    3) No relevant reads, don’t know how he plays preflop. I’ve seen him make some pretty weak bets post flop, but I dunno if that applies here. Anyway, fold the turn?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($173.90)
    BB ($27.85)
    UTG ($28.20)
    MP ($150.45)
    CO ($99.50)
    Button ($114.95)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, T.
    UTG calls $1, MP raises to $3, CO calls $3, Button calls $3, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $13, Button folds.

    Flop: ($40) T, Q, 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $32, CO calls $32.

    Turn: ($104) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $30, Hero ...


    4) BB is 27/23/1 over 50 hands. Pretty standard?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($231.10)
    Hero ($231.20)
    SB ($97.50)
    BB ($118.60)
    UTG ($50.90)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J.
    2 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, BB raises to $18, Hero raises to $50
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  2. #2
    1- I'm thinking just fold or push the turn because he raised an amount that leaves a lot < pot in your stack, and if he has a draw, he might call on the turn but not the river.
    I'm not definite on what to do though...his raise size looks like he wants a call, and turn raises are usually monsters, so I could understand folding, but that is such a dangerous flop to smooth call a hand that beats you, and he has been pretty active, so I could also see him making a donkish raise on a draw or with like 99.
    Tough one, but I think I'd gamble there and push (might be a leak).
  3. #3
    Hand 1:
    Given the read I might just check the river and call normal sized bet. I believe that 99 or TT might be playing the hand the same. AK might have re-raised pre-flop.

    Hand 2:
    Do you think UTG could limp AJ? Some players raise a nut flush draw on paired boards but without reads? I'm 60% folding and 40% pushing if this makes sense.

    Hand 3:
    I don't really like the re-raise with ATo in the SB. I rather re-raise high suited connectors or small PP in this position. Without reads MP might be raising with AK or AQ. As played I just fold. Even KQ (where K or Q = spades) has me beat here.

    Hand 4:
    I might just call this in position. Obviously BB isn't a weak player so just call. Then bet the sh*t out of it on a non A or K high board.

    P.S. I'm drunk and advise to be taken with a grain of salt.
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    1) Fold the turn.

    2) Call and let him stack off to you by pushing. Your kicker is good and if he wants to get AI let him, but pushing isnt the best play here.

    3) I dont like the squeeze play here at all, I fold preflop. On flop, I bet about $25 as you don't have to bet as much in bigger pots for the same information. It is hands like these why ATo doesnt play well OOP in reraised pots.

    4) Just call the preflop raise without a read as you have position on him, and see what he does post flop. If you have a read that he'll squeeze with hands worse than AQo here then I like the play, otherwise take advantage of your position. Although villain is on the aggressive side preflop, I dont like a 4bet with JJ (ever, really) in the 100 NL Stars game.


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  5. #5
    1: I fold, seems like he's milking you

    2: only hand that beat you are AJ and 22.. since it's an unraised pot there are plenty of Jx hand you are ahead of that play this way imo, so I'd felt it

    3: I don't understand the squeeze, I think it's pretty bad. Do it when u have the button. And on the flop your hand has some showdown value but if you bet this high you're basically turning it into a bluff.

    4: I call or fold.. I might be totally off though, if the game flow sees a lot of these squeezes maybe it's ok?
  6. #6
    Hand_1 I think I would seriously consider folding without any wild reads
    on villian.

    Hand_2 I think you may have to pay off a set here & put him all in, I dont see him on AJ (Is this bad-I play at lower levels)

    Hand_3 There is a raise & 2 callers & UTG to act again, I don't think out of position with A10 off suit is the right place to re-raise.

    Hand_4 His low aggression factor makes me think he isn't 3 betting without a very good hand, I might call & re-evaluate on flop (this may be weak though.)
  7. #7
    His AF isn't really relevant here I think. This is how I analyse his stats: he is raising roughly 1/4th of his hands, and obviously not limping/calling raises very often (4% of the time) So either the table is rather is rather passive and he is raising preflop a lot, or there's plenty of other people raising and he is doing a fair share of 3betting preflop.
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    1-fold to turn raise
    2-call the reraise, but yea i raise pre
    3-fold. also i usually just fold this preflop, but reraising is better than calling. sometimes check this flop after reraising.
    4-why did you do that? i would call and probably call most flop bets on good boards
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    the more i look at the ATo hand, the more things i think of that need to be considered before the reraise pre. in general, you dont want to squeeze when the raiser doesnt have a wide range, and i dont think he does here because of the utg limp.

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