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    Default 10/20 Being stubborn with tens

    Just thought i'd post this. I knew villain was a little bit of donkey other than that didnt know him that well.

    PokerStars Game #7868207854: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2007/01/10 - 18:14:41 (ET)
    Table 'Tololo' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: __2cb__ ($2252.20 in chips)
    Seat 2: tralaira ($2239.50 in chips)
    Seat 3: ct112 ($2000 in chips)
    Seat 4: schwindog ($513.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: danjuluc ($1797.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: Crazyhug ($370 in chips)
    Seat 7: idoubleL ($2491 in chips)
    Seat 8: n_tzzvicodin ($1085 in chips)
    Seat 9: EvilEcstasy ($2417.40 in chips)
    EvilEcstasy: posts small blind $10
    __2cb__: posts big blind $20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to EvilEcstasy [T T]
    tralaira: folds
    ct112: folds
    schwindog: raises $60 to $80
    danjuluc: calls $80
    Crazyhug: folds
    idoubleL: folds
    n_tzzvicodin: calls $80
    EvilEcstasy: calls $70
    __2cb__: calls $60
    *** FLOP *** [8 8 4]
    EvilEcstasy: checks
    __2cb__: checks
    schwindog: checks
    danjuluc: bets $200
    n_tzzvicodin: folds
    EvilEcstasy: calls $200
    __2cb__: folds
    schwindog: folds
    *** TURN *** [8 8 4] [3]
    EvilEcstasy: checks
    danjuluc: bets $300
    EvilEcstasy: calls $300
    *** RIVER *** [8 8 4 3] [9]
    EvilEcstasy: checks
    danjuluc: bets $1217.50 and is all-in
    EvilEcstasy: calls $1217.50
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    danjuluc: shows [Qc Ts] (a pair of Eights)
    EvilEcstasy: shows [Tc Td] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
    EvilEcstasy collected $3832 from pot

    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $3835 | Rake $3
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    i like it, it looks like he has a boat or nothing to me.

    Also, I would like to see a discussion on whether or not the most +EV play is to make it $514 (or maybe just 400, whatever, doesn't matter) to go preflop, because I would do this nearly every time in this spot.
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    Wow, are they always that aggressive 3-barreling??
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    If opp makes the river say $500 to go, how easy/hard of a call is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHiltz
    If opp makes the river say $500 to go, how easy/hard of a call is it?

    Yes. the river push is what makes me call this too, but what about the above? Do you then give credit of possibly an 8??
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    I think the only questionable spot is the turn, i would have probably pussed out and led it.

    I don't think this is the most secure spot to be a hero out of position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    i like it, it looks like he has a boat or nothing to me.

    Also, I would like to see a discussion on whether or not the most +EV play is to make it $514 (or maybe just 400, whatever, doesn't matter) to go preflop, because I would do this nearly every time in this spot.
    Having played a ton of full ring lately (and obviously understanding that 10/20 is more aggressive than 1/2), i can't see this being the greatest play. In fact, I can't see reraising TT to an early position raiser being a good play the vast majority of the time (assuming most full ringers are very tight raisers).
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    this post is 8 times more interesting with no results.
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    Seems like a great spot to squeeze preflop.

    The 3-barrel is not that bad because you really don't represent a strong hand (flushdraw or stubborn medium pair).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    i like it, it looks like he has a boat or nothing to me.

    Also, I would like to see a discussion on whether or not the most +EV play is to make it $514 (or maybe just 400, whatever, doesn't matter) to go preflop, because I would do this nearly every time in this spot.
    Having played a ton of full ring lately (and obviously understanding that 10/20 is more aggressive than 1/2), i can't see this being the greatest play. In fact, I can't see reraising TT to an early position raiser being a good play the vast majority of the time (assuming most full ringers are very tight raisers).
    when the original raiser only has 25 bb i tend to like my equity on a squeeze with 88+, AK, AQs...
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    I'm interested in if 500 on the river is a fold.
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    Looks OK if you know theyre capable of raising shite and 3barrelling... I had a similar hand but with 88 and played it the same:

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    ol welcome back from the dead

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