Weak Tight or Weak Right?

[Galapogos]

Is this so wrong against an unknown? I just figured trips would raise at one point so I got that sick "he has KJ" feeling.

Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (Real Money), #1,873,283,842
Table Chapstylez's HE, 13 Feb 2007 8:19 PM ET

Seat 1: napolidoc1 ($130.25 in chips)
Seat 3: osman33388 ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Shevol ($48.10 in chips)
Seat 5: bc_bud_69 ($105.70 in chips)
Seat 9: _MigP_ ($107.70 in chips)
Seat 10: Galapogos [A,J] ($122.60 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
bc_bud_69 posts blind ($0.50), _MigP_ posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
Galapogos bets $4, napolidoc1 folds, osman33388 calls $4, Shevol folds, bc_bud_69 folds, _MigP_ folds.

FLOP [board cards K,J,J]
Galapogos bets $7, osman33388 calls $7.

TURN [board cards K,J,J,3]
Galapogos bets $18, osman33388 calls $18.

RIVER [board cards K,J,J,3,2]
Galapogos checks, osman33388 bets $25, Galapogos calls $25.

How weak am I to be worried about a flopped full-house?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Pretty weak.
I love the river check though, just reraise it. All in I guess but I almost feel like a minraise is getting called 100% of the time where a push is getting a lot of folds.

[benny999]

its exceptionally weak imo. and i agree w/ iowa on the river, nh except not raising there.

[Renton]

its standard, a checkraise on the river would be retarded

EDIT: too harsh. I think it would just be pointless, as it really only gets value from lesser trips while donating a stack to all the hands that beat us. He likely has a busted draw, which is what makes teh river check standard, and obviously that hand isn't calling a raise.

[benny999]

"all the hands that beat us"...which is...KJ only? once in a while KK?
i think other Jx, sometimes even Kx, are just as common and will call a raise after the weird river play.

[Renton]

"all the hands that beat us"...which is...KJ only? once in a while KK?
i think other Jx, sometimes even Kx, are just as common and will call a raise after the weird river play.

I just think that our hand is on the borderline of being strong enough to c/r the river. The value in raising seems very thin to non existant.

[IowaSkinsFan]

This guy has a K a lot and is going to feel committed renton. I personally like a c/r on the river here because their aren't a lot of hands that play this way and we are beating.

[Galapogos]

This guy has a K a lot and is going to feel committed renton. I personally like a c/r on the river here because their aren't a lot of hands that play this way and we are beating.

So if you have a K you are calling the flop, then the turn, and then a river c/r? How does my line make you think a K beats my hand?

[benny999]

when I used to play more passive, I would often play that way vs an aggro with QJ maybe JTs or J9s, maybe KQ even AK, then would think you were bluffing if you check raised the river since I looked weak or on a draw. It would be especially hard to lay down for a min raise...I would just have to see your hand

[UG]

weak sauce, but at the same time you played it safe


*sometimes* safe is good, but I probably would have done something a little different here.

[elipsesjeff]

I think if you had a J with a weaker kicker I like this play alot. But, Iowaskinsfan plays goot here.