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  1. #1

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    I was playing in a poker game my friends' coworkers put on periodically. None of the players were great poker players, though i had been up with some of them to the casino before.

    One player who i hadn't met was extremely aggressive (on my left, and the SB in the posted hand) and i ended up surrending a couple good sized pots to him before this hand. Luckily, i found out later, he was a fish and played almost anything better than middle pair for a large pot and showdown. I had not gotten involved in a hand with this player for a long time. Against the rest of the table i was still playing aggressively. The game is 6 handed; due to extra players they had two tables running at the time. Rest of the table is loose/passive.

    I would like some comments on my PF reraise, and any other comments/suggestions on my betting - especially the turn.

    I will post some of my thoughts after i get some feedback.

    Blinds: ($0.50/$1.00)

    Button(Her0): around $220
    SB(Villan): around $350

    UTG: calls
    MP 1: calls
    MP 2: folds
    Button: (5d, 4d) calls
    SB: raises to $2
    BB calls, rest of the table folds
    Button: raises to $7
    SB: calls
    BB: folds

    Flop: (2, 3, A) rainbow

    SB: bets $10
    Hero: raises to $35

    SB: calls $25

    Turn: 9

    SB: bets $30
    Hero: raises to $80

    SB: calls $50

    River: K

    SB: goes all in
    Hero: calls all in
  2. #2
    I don;t know how fishy he is but anyone half decent will realise that there's no way you would limp after 2 limpers with a premium so I say boo.
  3. #3
    Inflating the pot with 5d 4d just seems like a stupid play to me against a calling station.

    Raising from the button to $2 isn't a bad play, but I can't see re-raising that hand being profitable.

    Seeing cheap flops and hitting (luckily like you did here) will probably yeild the same result.
  4. #4
    When i was in the hand, it was the stack sizes that were important. Both my opponent and I are over 200BB's deep. That means if i want my opponent to make the biggest mistake possible (that is, for all of his chips), i need the pot to be big enough that he can get all of his chips in. Isolating the PF betting and seeing i made a small reraise against a very aggressive opponent who will almost certainly call the raise looks bad on its own. But, when you consider that i sacrified some PF value(14BB+) in the hopes of winning a +200BB pot the play looks a little better. Like i mentioned in the original post, this villan was willing to go all the way with just about any hand. I am not going to try to bluff him, so i don't lose value on failed c-bets. I am going to win with 2 pair or better hands for large pots since villan will probably call 3 bets to get to showdown with just about any kind of hand.
  5. #5
    If you really want to raise preflop, raise when the action first gets to you on the button. A limp-reraise is retarded...
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
    When i was in the hand, it was the stack sizes that were important. Both my opponent and I are over 200BB's deep. That means if i want my opponent to make the biggest mistake possible (that is, for all of his chips), i need the pot to be big enough that he can get all of his chips in. Isolating the PF betting and seeing i made a small reraise against a very aggressive opponent who will almost certainly call the raise looks bad on its own. But, when you consider that i sacrified some PF value(14BB+) in the hopes of winning a +200BB pot the play looks a little better. Like i mentioned in the original post, this villan was willing to go all the way with just about any hand. I am not going to try to bluff him, so i don't lose value on failed c-bets. I am going to win with 2 pair or better hands for large pots since villan will probably call 3 bets to get to showdown with just about any kind of hand.
    tbh it just look slike a spew to me.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by ShowMeAtlas
    I don;t know how fishy he is but anyone half decent will realise that there's no way you would limp after 2 limpers with a premium so I say boo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slansky
    Concept No.x: It is sometimes correct to limp after limpers with AA.
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  8. #8
    I quite like the play because stacks are so deep. If, as I think you are saying, you only reraised because you wanted to inflate the pot just against this opponent then it's good.

    Looks to me like a very well thought out and executed way of getting a full 200xBBs from a specific opponent. nh sir.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    Quote Originally Posted by ShowMeAtlas
    I don;t know how fishy he is but anyone half decent will realise that there's no way you would limp after 2 limpers with a premium so I say boo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slansky
    Concept No.x: It is sometimes correct to limp after limpers with AA.
    not in this situation. Reread that section in NLTP and you'll see why.

    Problem with reraising here is not the actual lost value in reraising a hand like 45s. In the context of 200BB stacks it's a small mistake at most. Problem is if he really has a hand this time (and LaGGs get hands too) like AK he might make a big reraise or shove and then you lose the chance to see a flop. With a hand like 45s, better to call rather than risk getting re-reraised
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
    But, when you consider that i sacrified some PF value(14BB+) in the hopes of winning a +200BB pot the play looks a little better.
    This is only 14:1, and you both need to hit (and you need to out-hit him). How much, on average, do you make when you hit 54 2 pair?

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