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  1. #1

    Default Comment on these please

    Hand 1
    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    CO ($8.50)
    Button ($48)
    SB ($48.75)
    BB ($23.18)
    UTG ($71.50)
    Hero ($49.25)
    MP1 ($49.50)
    MP2 ($12.60)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, 6 folds, UTG calls $3.

    Flop: ($9.75) 6, 2, J (2 players)
    UTG bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.

    Turn: ($12.75) 7 (2 players)
    UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $8, UTG calls $6.

    River: ($28.75) 7 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG calls $22.

    Final Pot: $72.75

    Results in white below:
    UTG has Qh Jc (two pair, jacks and sevens).
    Hero has Kh Ac (one pair, sevens).
    Outcome: UTG wins $72.75.


    Hand 2
    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    BB ($34.25)
    UTG ($9.25)
    UTG+1 ($49.40)
    MP1 ($71.35)
    MP2 ($26.16)
    MP3 ($25.20)
    CO ($18.80)
    Hero ($48.50)
    SB ($93.40)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
    2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP1 calls $2.

    Flop: ($6.75) 9, 6, J (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4.

    Turn: ($14.75) 8 (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero bets $8, MP1 calls $8.

    River: ($30.75) 4 (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: $30.75

    Results in white below:
    MP1 has As 6c (one pair, sixes).
    Hero has Ad Qd (high card, ace).
    Outcome: MP1 wins $30.75.


    Hand 3
    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Button ($163.01)
    SB ($36.05)
    BB ($10)
    UTG ($40.60)
    UTG+1 ($0)
    MP1 ($52.80)
    MP2 ($25.35)
    MP3 ($13)
    Hero ($47.50)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, J. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
    2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $2.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2.

    Flop: ($8) A, Q, 3 (4 players)
    SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5, MP2 folds.

    Turn: ($18) 9 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $35.80 (All-In), Hero calls $16.55.

    River: ($82.35) 5 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $82.35

    Results in white below:
    SB has Qc Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
    UTG+1 doesn't show.
    Hero has Ac Jc (one pair, aces).
    Outcome: SB wins $75.10. Hero wins $7.25.


    Was the call on the turn correct seeing as I'd just hit nut flush draw or was it still a fold even though I put him on AQ after his c/r?
  2. #2
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    Hand 1

    Yeah, good reraise preflop. Now on the flop you need to reraise this to represent JJ+. Villain is obv awful.
    On the river I think you should check behind as the he called the turn raise and he isnt going to lay this down.

    Hand 2

    Bet more on the turn like $10 and bet the river too - $20. My read would be he was on the flush draw, but as you've put he had A6. Do you have a bad image or are you on a table of donks? PPL seem to call you with crap

    Hand 3
    I don't think you have a tight enough read to put him on AQ alone. You could have just checked behind on the turn getting a free card for the flush. As played yes you have to call the turn as your getting 4:1
  3. #3
    1: Yeah, should have raised the flop, but tried to make up for it by representing the flush on the turn. Ovbiously didn't work.

    2: Honestly don't remeber how I was playing on the table, it was a few days ago. Agree I should have bet more on turn. Don't think I had any stats on him at the time, but after the flop and turn I was pretty convinced he had a J of some sorts and just didn't feel I would be able to get him of it. Was suprised when he turned over A6.

    3: Yeah, maybe should have taken the free card and see what happened. He probably would have led out on the river and I would have probably called, but would have lost a lot less than I actually did.

    Thanks for your comments

    Any others?
  4. #4
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    Maybe it's just me, but I don't do big bluffs online at 50NL. With so many calling stations, if I can't bluff someone out by the Turn, there's no way I'm firing a third big river bullet. Plus, I don't find bluffs to be very profitable in the long run. Some work, but I find plenty of situations to get my money in more favorably.

    Hand 1 turn bluff is not bad, but if calls it I'm not firing the third...he's probably calling.

    Hand 2 I take the free card on the turn.

    Hand #3 just sucks and I probably puke and call his turn push I probably only lead for 1/2 pot on turn
  5. #5
    Hand 1: just like PokerMuzz said

    Hand 2: just like Mixchange said

    Hand 3: Before you decide to bet the turn, you need to try to assign villain a range of hands that he could be holding (remember, it is not always about the absolute strength of your hand).

    I would guess after villains c/c on the flop(plus the fact he didn't reraise PF), he is probably holding:

    A-x: 60%
    A-Q: 10%
    3-3: 10%
    A-3: 10%
    Some junky hand he may be planning to bluff with: 10%

    You are slightly ahead of his range, but consider how he would play each of these hands on the turn.

    With a weak ace (not two pair) i would expect him to lead out. Since he neglected to do so i would guess it is less likely he is holding a weak ace.

    With a two pair/set hand he is probably looking to c/r the turn or c/c and bet big on the river. He might sometimes lead out but i think it is more likely he would be looking to c/r in this spot.

    Basically taking a free card is best not simply because you are drawing to a flush. It is best because hands that you beat will probably fold to a second bet, and hands that beat you will be looking to make a big raise... forcing you to decide if you want to play a big pot with just TPGK.
  6. #6
    hand 1: please raise the flop
    hand 2: dont bet like a pussy
    hand 3: call all day

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