QQ IP in reraised 3 way pot 50NL

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

No reads, and my notes were possibly inaccurate - based on a small number of showdowns and flops i had seen them take.

Notes on Villain 2: c-bets almost all flops. Seems to respect reraises. Gives little consideration to position or pot odds.

Notes on Villain 1: Calls a lot preflop and likes to slowplay sets/straights/flushes.

Given the Preflop action
Villain 1's Range: (10-10, J-J, A-K)
Villain 2's Range: (A-K, Q-Q+)

This hand was played at Full Tilt.

Seat 1: Villain 1 ($46.50)

Seat 4: Hero ($152.40)

Seat 9: Villain 2($52.05)

Dealt to Hero: (Qc Qs)

1 fold
Villain 2: raises to $2.25
Villain 1: calls $2.25
2 folds
Hero: raises to $7.25
3 folds
Villain 2: calls $5
Villain 1 calls $5

Flop: 10c 7d 5s

Villain 2: checks
Villain 1: checks
Hero: ?

My reraise should have shut out small set chasing PP's by greatly reducing their implied odds. I just didn't think there was a flop i was going to like that didn't have a queen on it if i was playing 2 opponents in this pot. Check/fold O.K.?

In retrospect i should have bumped this to ~$10 preflop.

[NLHE lahooozaher]

$10 is better than $7.25 preflop. Thinking of check/folding here is very bad. Why can't you bet/fold? Bet $14-$18 and then make a decision.

Given the Preflop action
Villain 1's Range: (10-10, J-J, A-K)
Villain 2's Range: (A-K, Q-Q+)

Solely based on your descriptions of them, you're wrong.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

specifically, what is wrong about the ranges I assigned to villain's 1 + 2?

[yorib]

Villian 1: Calls a lot preflop = Axs, 22+, sc, sc+1

Figure that if Villian 2 had AA/KK and there was another caller sandwhiched he'd 4-bet/push over your raise.

You have to bet about $15 and then evaluate from there.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

Figure that if Villian 2 had AA/KK and there was another caller sandwhiched he'd 4-bet/push over your raise.

I think this is an excellent point. One i should have considered. This would put his range on probably 10's or better, and A-K. More hands in his range that i beat now, making a check a poor play.

Yeah, i should have bet here, considering that with the good pot odds as well as there still being plently of money behind, villain one could still have made that calling with 7-8s, PP's, etc.

Thanks for the feedback.

[mixchange]

What do you consider a good flop for Queens then?

[yorib]

My pleasure.

Honestly, that's about as good a flop for QQ as they get. Maybe J high to get action from AJ/KJ.