cardsman's "Grind for Education"

[cardsman1992]

Well, I have given into the peer pressure. All the cool kids are doing it, as Anosmic says....

A few of the $100 regs at Full Tilt are tracking their progress, and at one's request, I am jumping into the fray. YES! Another operation thread!!!

I am changing the name of my operation to "Grind for Education". I have mentioned before that I have a young daughter. My ex-wife insists on putting her in a private school instead of feeding her into the chasm that is her big-city school district. Therefore, I must share the cost of this expense. I also have to share the expense of putting her through college, and I have BUMPKUS put back for that!! Therefore, my daughter has become my "why" for playing poker.

Last night I withdrew enough money ($2K) from my account at FT to pay my half of her kindergarten. I felt very proud of myself. That took my roll down to $5400. I am overrolled for $100 but I still think I lack the skill to win at $200. My operation is twofold.....

Increase BR to $10K.
Become a regular at $200 with shots at $400

I have my end date as the end of the year in my sig, but I may make that slightly more aggressive. I get to play almost every day, and I play plenty of hands. However, I am capable of some of the most mindnumbing mistakes you can make, as well as having them fester into massive downswings.....

Currently I play $100 full ring and am re-learning 6 max at $25. I intend to be back up to $100 6 max as well.....

Stay tuned for progress. All the dirty laundry will be here!!!

[Da GOAT]

dont drop to 25NL plz, 50NL at least if not just straight into 100NL.

I switched from 100 & 200NL to 100NL and its fine really. Your probably on a US site so maybe 50NL then. relearning so low isnt worth it seriously

[cardsman1992]

My thought there was only that $50 was so much rockier than $25, being the graduate level IMO. I thought that if I went to $25, it would be a game that more resembled $100. I have run pretty well at $25, 15K hands and just about 10 ptBB/100. I will likely move up to $50 or even back to $100 now.

I play at Tilt mostly. Seems the 6 max at $100 is hyper aggro (or maybe it's my FR background that makes it seem that way). I know that 6 max has definitely helped my FR aggression!!

[Da GOAT]

hmm theres method to your madness lol

oh wow i just noticed your operation is geared towards 10K like mine. race ye

[cardsman1992]

I'd love to race....but now you have a $2K head start on me after yesterday's withdrawal!!!!

Where you playing these days? Prop bet? $2800 to go for you.....I will race you for the next $2800?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Feel good thread...
Wish you the best!

[Da GOAT]

I'd love to race....but now you have a $2K head start on me after yesterday's withdrawal!!!!

Where you playing these days? Prop bet? $2800 to go for you.....I will race you for the next $2800?

Im on Prima, Purple Lounge (yeah so gay but meh). Yeah prop bet no bother, will help motivate me more to get to my target

So how much??

[cardsman1992]

I dunno, a decent dinner for the missus and me....say $50?

You getting RB, and should we count it? I just got my last payment.

Lemme know....I am starting tonight.....

[cardsman1992]

Okay, so first report is from last night....

+$100--down $44 at $100, up $144 at $25 6max. I was sitting at one 6 max table with 6 buyins. I have rarely done that at a level.

My biggest hand of the night at $25 was the following. I had been abusing the guy to my right all night on a couple of different tables. I made two mistakes, one big and one smaller. I think I could reraise PF (small mistake), but the flop call isn't great and I have to get a stack if I hit for it to pay off, right?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($82.05)
Button ($18.45)
SB ($12.90)
BB ($19.15)
UTG ($25)
MP ($25.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, J.
UTG raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($3.65) 6, 8, T (4 players)
SB bets $3.65, UTG folds, MP calls $3.65, Hero calls $3.65.

Turn: ($14.60) Q (3 players)
SB bets $8.4 (All-In), MP calls $8.40, Hero raises to $77.55 (All-In), MP calls $12.70 (All-In).

River: ($121.65) 4 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $121.65

Results in white below:
SB has 9h 7h (straight, ten high).
MP has 7c 5c (straight, eight high).
Hero has 9s Js (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Hero wins $121.65.

I didn't win any big pots at $100, just a couple of half stack pots. Here are a couple of amusing hands that turned my positive $100 session into a losing $100 session. Both are against the same villain in back to back hands. Vi-Zeroskill can vouch for me, he was there....

Villain is TAG...12/5 over semidecent sample.

FullTiltPoker Game #2268400304: Table Roaring Lion - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:57:27 ET - 2007/04/22
Seat 1: VoteFrist2008 ($68.90)
Seat 2: GMoney2001 ($140)
Seat 3: BlairJames ($17)
Seat 4: cardsman1992 ($117.75)
Seat 5: Vi($96)
Seat 6: brnr4ife ($55.90)
Seat 7: fishsandwitch ($183.80)
Seat 8: tmoney9900 ($18.50)
Seat 9: Dice55 ($17.50)
GMoney2001 posts the small blind of $0.50
BlairJames posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cardsman1992 [Qs Qh]
cardsman1992 raises to $4
Vi folds
brnr4ife folds
fishsandwitch folds
tmoney9900 folds
Dice55 folds
VoteFrist2008 raises to $12
GMoney2001 folds
BlairJames folds
cardsman1992 calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Th 5s 6d]
cardsman1992 checks
VoteFrist2008 bets $13
cardsman1992 calls $13
*** TURN *** [Th 5s 6d] [9h]
cardsman1992 bets $29
VoteFrist2008 raises to $43.90, and is all in
cardsman1992 calls $14.90
VoteFrist2008 shows [Kd Ks]
cardsman1992 shows [Qs Qh]
cardsman1992: nh
*** RIVER *** [Th 5s 6d 9h] [Ac]
VoteFrist2008 shows a pair of Kings
cardsman1992 shows a pair of Queens
VoteFrist2008 wins the pot ($136.30) with a pair of Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $139.30 | Rake $3
Board: [Th 5s 6d 9h Ac]
Seat 1: VoteFrist2008 (button) showed [Kd Ks] and won ($136.30) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: GMoney2001 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: BlairJames (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: cardsman1992 showed [Qs Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Vi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: brnr4ife didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: fishsandwitch didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: tmoney9900 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Dice55 didn't bet (folded)

Then the very next hand (no, I couldn't get topped off in time--where is the auto-topoff?)--QQ again. The tooth fairy stopped by and placed them under my pillow and said, "that last hand sucked for you, here's your chance to make up for it". I figured he thought I might be tilting slightly and in revenge mode, so I thought his push was with a wider than normal range against me....

FullTiltPoker Game #2268409350: Table Roaring Lion - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:58:34 ET - 2007/04/22
Seat 1: VoteFrist2008 ($136.30)
Seat 2: GMoney2001 ($139.50)
Seat 3: BlairJames ($16)
Seat 4: cardsman1992 ($48.85)
Seat 5: Vi($96)
Seat 6: brnr4ife ($55.90)
Seat 7: fishsandwitch ($183.80)
Seat 8: tmoney9900 ($18.50)
Seat 9: Dice55 ($17.50)
BlairJames posts the small blind of $0.50
cardsman1992 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cardsman1992 [Qh Qd]
Vi folds
brnr4ife folds
fishsandwitch folds
tmoney9900 folds
Dice55 folds
VoteFrist2008 raises to $4
GMoney2001 folds
BlairJames folds
cardsman1992 raises to $12
VoteFrist2008 raises to $55
cardsman1992 calls $36.85, and is all in
VoteFrist2008 shows [As Qc]
cardsman1992 shows [Qh Qd]
Uncalled bet of $6.15 returned to VoteFrist2008
*** FLOP *** [Ad Tc Ts]
*** TURN *** [Ad Tc Ts] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Ad Tc Ts 6d] [Jh]
VoteFrist2008 shows two pair, Aces and Tens
cardsman1992 shows two pair, Queens and Tens
VoteFrist2008 wins the pot ($95.20) with two pair, Aces and Tens
cardsman1992: jeeez
Vi : sick
cardsman1992 adds $100
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $98.20 | Rake $3
Board: [Ad Tc Ts 6d Jh]
Seat 1: VoteFrist2008 showed [As Qc] and won ($95.20) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 2: GMoney2001 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: BlairJames (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: cardsman1992 (big blind) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 5: Vi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: brnr4ife didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: fishsandwitch didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: tmoney9900 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Dice55 didn't bet (folded)

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

I quit soon afterward for the night. I really thought I played okay for the night, though....

[zook]

Best of luck Mark. You have the game to beat 200NL if you stay focused and don't make dumb mistakes. Hope to see you up there soon.

[cardsman1992]

Well, tonight was a mixed bag. I should feel good, because I was up $172 for the night. However, the last 30-45 minutes I bled off over a buyin. I had been up over $300 at one point. I made one horrible call where I knew I was behind with AQ on an A8T rainbow flop. Minraised flop and open pushed turn. I thought it was a set. I had the pointer on fold. Then the donk in me took over.......sure enough, set of 8s.

I also doubled up a $35 stack with AQ. Villain was a 20/6 type and was UTG, I was to his left. I raised to $5, he calls. Flop is A high, he leads into me, I put him all in. He has AK. YOU CAN RAISE AK YOU DOOFUS!!! Outcome would have been the same if he had, though. I would have reraised him more likely than not...

Hit two nice pots in sets and built one $25 table up over 4 buyins. So all in all it was a decent night even though the ending was disappointing.

My Win at sd was 65%, so that was good. Career I am under 50%, so nights in the 60s and 70s are great....

BR=$5585.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

Yeah, i remember your back to back Q-Q hands quite well. The tooth fairy must support a ban on online poker!

Are you switching over to 6Max? Or are you just experimenting to see what the different winrates are?

Good luck on your operation!

(A-Q is an evil hand)

[TerryToma]

good luck.. you make 6 max look tempting.

[Da GOAT]

ok $50 prop bet is good. yeah im getting RB at 30%. We can count it, next to make $2800 overall wins

[cardsman1992]

Thanks for all the well wishes and votes of confidence!!!

Vi--I am trying to learn 6 max for a couple of reasons...there are supposed to be more donks at 6max and more dead money. That alone would make it worthwhile. Plus, if I do make it to levels higher than $200, game selection is pretty bad and you can't find many FR tables running. So learning 6 max now is partly in preparation for higher levels. It definitely helps your aggression when you do play FR. I have noticed changes for the better in my reraising range and my flop play. It took my overall aggro factor from just over 2 to almost 3. And it has paid off!

I don't think I will ever leave FR totally. I enjoy that game immensely. I started trying out $100 6 max and really got off to a good start. Over the first 10K hands I was running 10ptbb/100. Then, over the next 25K hands, I started bleeding chips left and right. I went from that winrate to -2ptbb/100. I still think learning 6 max is important, so I decided to drop down and relearn. I also committed myself back to FR as my main game. I feel like FR is my better game because you can be a little more patient, and my hand reading skills (so important in SH) aren't up to par, so I can't afford to be as aggro preflop at SH as I need to be.

Terry--Good to see you back! Where are you playing these days? I remember when we were both donking around at the $25 tables at PR. Your game grew immensely, though. I thought you were weaktight in the beginning, but you really grew into a big time winner. I looked at your graphs in ENVY!

Z--I plan on pwning $200 soon! Problem is, you will be pwning $400 by then!!

Goat--We're on!

Score--Cman, $172, Goat, ?????

[XTR1000]

good luck homie!

i thought i´d never quit playing fr either, then i spend some time and a couple of buy ins to really learn 6m and since then i won´t go back to full circuits. more donks and it´s easier to run over the nits (yes, there are ppl playing tighter than me )

[zook]

Da Goat & C-man: As an impartial observer, I don't think you should include RB in the challenge. You probably get different percentages and it might even be calculated a different way (dealt vs. contributed), plus it will come all at once, so it could put someone over the top and the other won't even know it's coming. It seems like part of the fun of these challenges is marathon sessions at the end to try to beat the other person

If you're looking for someone to "hold" the money, I'm happy to do it, if both of you can transfer on either Stars or Full Tilt.

Good luck to both of you!

[cardsman1992]

Z, that is a good point. I won't count RB in my total if you won't, Goat...

I have accounts on both....I can send it to Z on stars--you have an account there, right Goat?

[Da GOAT]

Z, that is a good point. I won't count RB in my total if you won't, Goat...

I have accounts on both....I can send it to Z on stars--you have an account there, right Goat?

OK no problemo!! first to reach $2800 on PT from whenever you started there last night or whatever.

ill throw $50 on stars and tranfer to zook, what your SN there tho. dont have a FT account.

BTW i MIGHT have a session tonight. got a computer test 2m night!! its poxy and i havent studied at all, i actually dont need to pass it instead just sit it in order to do my main exams in sept. i can repeat the test anytime after. stupid rule. but you do have a little head start mon ami

[cardsman1992]

LOL I will make up for my head start with a doozy of a downswing. It's been about a month. I'm due....

[Da GOAT]

LOL I will make up for my head start with a doozy of a downswing. It's been about a month. I'm due....

might play sooner than you think, the stuff to study is web based self learning but the program java thing isnt working again and i cant figure it out thsi time. im off to gf who has my dinner ready then i shoudl be back to power some hands.

[zook]

My Stars sn is z00ted. And those are zero's not o's!!! Location should say Seattle when you try to transfer, if it doesn't, you enter the wrong sn.

[TerryToma]

Terry--Good to see you back! Where are you playing these days? I remember when we were both donking around at the $25 tables at PR. Your game grew immensely, though. I thought you were weaktight in the beginning, but you really grew into a big time winner. I looked at your graphs in ENVY!

Im playing 25NL FR @ full tilt these days. Seems tougher than i remember . of course i have been playing on non-peak hours. i hope to get back to the micro version of coco-bill's win rate!

[cardsman1992]

Maybe you should come over to the 6 max tables while I'm still there and donk around with me for old time's sake....I plan on bumping up to $50 or $100 soon.....

I may look you up on a FR table and heckle you!

Why you starting back so low? I remember you crushing $100, right?

PS--the games are tougher now post legislation. Not unbeatable, but more of a grind...

[Da GOAT]

im +60 so far

[TerryToma]

Maybe you should come over to the 6 max tables while I'm still there and donk around with me for old time's sake....I plan on bumping up to $50 or $100 soon.....

I may look you up on a FR table and heckle you!

Why you starting back so low? I remember you crushing $100, right?

PS--the games are tougher now post legislation. Not unbeatable, but more of a grind...

i'm playing so low because im just trying to build up from my rakeback leftovers.. i can't really cash in or out at the moment.

[zook]

$50 received from cardsman.

[Da GOAT]

its say wilmington not seattle, that you

[cardsman1992]

No, that's not Z--make sure you type zeros instead of o's. It gave me Seattle.....

Will report later today when I get some time....

[Da GOAT]

yeah i realised i didnt use zeros about an hour ago. will transfer when home tonight.

was down 130 at one point early on then jumped to +130. ended with +60 tho.

[cardsman1992]

Any of you who play golf will know exactly what I am talking about. Have you ever stepped up on the tee, and have NO idea where the ball is going? Even if you don't hit the ball straight (most people don't), but play your fade/slice/hook, at least USUALLY you have some idea where to set up and where to start the ball out. But occasionally you have those days where you start hitting duckhooks out of nowhere and you are kinda lost.....

Thats' the feeling I had last night while playing. I was on a roller coaster ride from the get go. Up a little, down a little. Definitely wasn't playing an A game. I was using aggression against people who didn't respect it, not having a plan for the hand when I play it. My checkraises were getting played back at, and that was not a comfortable feeling. Still I only lost one large $100 pot. Stupid me, I can't fold AA unless it is an obviously scary 4 to a flush or straight board. And it cost me yet again. Paid off another set. Lost a couple stacks at $25 6 max with horrible calls and bad aggression into guys that love to call. Lost a bunch of smaller ($20) pots at the $100 doing the same thing.

At one point, I am down about 2 hondo, and I start to hit a run of cards. Hit a couple of sets, and I am within striking distance of breakeven with about 15 min before I usually quit.

It is at this point I totally lose my mind and call a raise threeway with QJ sooted. Horrible horrible play in the position I was in. Well I must have rewired my luckbox properly because I hit trips on the flop with no draws (JJ6), and KK decides to reraise me all in on turn. He was fairly tight (further making my preflop call bad), so the only two hands I really worried about were AJ (not terribly likely from his position), or 66 (possible I guess). I crush the rest of his range. We were about 120 bbs deep too, so that put me in the black overall for the night. I said "that's enough, you fish" and shut down for the night.

Last night total: +$60
Overall total: +$230.

I will play better tonight!!

[Da GOAT]

$50 sent

[zook]

$50 received from Da Goat. GAME ON.

GL to you both!

[Da GOAT]

DG -$91, Cardman +230

[cardsman1992]

Had a decent session last night. Of course I always can find ways for them to have been better, but all in all I played okay.

Had some donkeriffic players at the 6 max tables. Too bad they donked me!! For example, I have a 68/44 on the button who raises, I reraise from the BB with KK and he calls. Flop comes 224, I bet, he pushes. He had K2. Open pushes with any two. I could never take advantage of them....

I ran KK into AA twice in 15 min, hit my set and turned quads once, unimproved the other time.

Below are some situations that I would appreciate opinion on. This hand took place right before I left. I felt that the best play was to reraise and isolate. I probably could have gotten by with a slightly smaller amount ($42). I wasn't getting odds to play for set value, and I thought he might fold AJ+. Plus I thought I had the bast hand. With the dead money, can I get by with calling for set value?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($75.40)
MP1 ($97.90)
MP2 ($111.65)
MP3 ($19.30)
CO ($13.70)
Button ($93.55)
Hero ($299.90)
BB ($50)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T.
4 folds, CO raises to $13.7 (All-In), Button calls $13.70, Hero raises to $48.5, 1 fold, Button raises to $107.25 (All-In), Hero instafolds?

Here is a situation I get into that I know I play badly but for whatever reason, I cannot get myself to play well. On a board this drawy, I could check the flop like NLHE-T&P says. I don't think this bet is horrible, but the turn is a terrible card for me. I have little FE but I manage to fold out the button, which surprised me. I should check this turn and give up 100% of the time....

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($140.50)
BB ($95.90)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($104.55)
MP1 ($139.50)
MP2 ($75.15)
Hero ($225.75)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($103.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, K.
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, Hero raises to $5, CO calls $5, Button calls $5, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4.

Flop: ($21.50) K, 7, J (4 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $14, CO folds, Button calls $14, MP2 calls $14.

Turn: ($63.50) 8 (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $42, Button folds, MP2 raises to $56.15 (All-In), Hero calls $14.15.

River: ($175.80) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $175.80

Here is a situation where I am unsure of myself when I play it. I think turn check is better, that a bet is asking to be raised. The problem is, what range does villain do this with? I think any PP and any J, as well as air, can do this....

What do you guys do? There is no cheap showdown available--it's felt or fold.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($48.45)
MP2 ($163.95)
MP3 ($110.55)
CO ($106.10)
Button ($50.30)
SB ($96.80)
Hero ($149)
UTG ($97.50)
UTG+1 ($64.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 5 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $6, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $4.

Flop: ($12) 2, 3, J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($28) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $19, SB raises to $65, Hero ????


Help me not to suck, guys!!!

At any rate, I ended the night up +$130. I know Goat had a bad last session, so I am off to the early lead in our bet, but I also know that when a basketball team jumps out to a big early lead, the other team invariably comes back.......

Cman +$360....

[zook]

1. I like the 3-bet a lot , but you can probably make it a little less, ~$40? Tough decision when he pushes. The converter screwed up, since he only has $93 in his stack right? Assuming the stack size is right, it's $45 to call to win $156, giving you almost 3.5:1. I doubt you're ever worse than 3:1 here, so it looks like a call.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.723% 24.52% 01.21% 7206061224 354974858.00 { 55+, A9s+, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 47.536% 46.45% 01.08% 13654214424 318762962.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 26.741% 26.51% 00.24% 7791067224 69368084.00 { TT }

Not what I would have guessed without using pokerstove, but there is a LOT of dead money and I think button does this with AK and possibly worse here. Anyone disagree with my ranges?

2. I c-bet this flop harder ~$20. As played, c/f turn.

3. I bet this flop a little harder. Usually check behind turn, but sometimes bet. As played, definitely fold to the c/r.

Now come visit NLHE HH's and check out the last few hands I posted. That forum is dead.

[cardsman1992]

Yeah, converter screwed up, only $93, not $107 in his stack...

I just had a sick feeling I was behind when I got squeezed...

Are you full potting most pots now? I go between 2/3-full pot. What's your % on turn when you bet if you pot flops?

[zook]

I just had a sick feeling I was behind when I got squeezed...

Well you're almost definitely behind. The question is whether you're worse than a 3.5:1 dog. I doubt it. If you're going to 3-bet more than 1/2 your effective stack, it often doesn't make a lot of sense to fold it.

Are you full potting most pots now? I go between 2/3-full pot. What's your % on turn when you bet if you pot flops?

I'm not full potting many flops, my standard is still 3/4, but when the board is drawy and it's multiway I bump it up a little. Or when villain(s) has a low fold to c-bet %. In hand 3 I like betting the flop harder because the pot's small and you have AA. You can always check behind the turn for pot control.

[biondino]

Can I just add something from earlier in the thread?

I thought that if I went to $25, it would be a game that more resembled $100.

In my experience, this is dangerously untrue. At 25, the big difference is that players don't float, and don't re-raise. Yes, you get loose/passives, you get maniacs, but they're very easy to identify and play. People overplay weak hands because they're bad, not because they're laggy. The nittier players simply fold to any pressure.

So 25 players often bet light, and often don't fold. But their motivations are very different, and much easier to respond to.

50 players do tend to be nitty, but they also play harder, fold marginal hands vs strength, and are more likely to raise and re-raise without the nuts. There is a lot less dead money and a lot fewer spewing stations., though there's not a lot of floating and weak/tightness tends to be the default, so you have to work harder for your money.

[Da GOAT]

im +$93 now

[Galapogos]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 ($75.40)
MP1 ($97.90)
MP2 ($111.65)
MP3 ($19.30)
CO ($13.70)
Button ($93.55)
Hero ($299.90)
BB ($50)
UTG ($40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T.
4 folds, CO raises to $13.7 (All-In), Button calls $13.70, Hero raises to $48.5, 1 fold, Button raises to $107.25 (All-In), Hero instafolds?

I don't like this. I actually fold preflop unless I disrespect Buttons game that much. If you think he could be on a lot of AJ+ type hands I'd call then bet a safe flop, the CO all-in should keep him honest. As played you have to call, I think you're commited now.

[cardsman1992]

Well, last night was a huge disappointment. Just to show you how quickly things can turn, I was down 3 buyins last night. I really didn't spew much. I did make a couple of bad plays. I stacked of with TPTK to a set (DUMB DUMB DUMB), and lost several stacks at $25 6 max to goofy two pairs. Once was KK vs 37 that caught two pair on the flop. That one was pretty funny. I had the same eerie thing happen to me at the FR tables that happened Sunday with the QQ hands. First hand I have AA and end up paying off a set to a $42 stack. Very next hand, AA again. Different villain, but I ran into trip Ts. He minraised the flop, which should have told me he was strong, but I have seen this guy minraise QJ on a Q high flop too, so I didn't give it as much credit as I should. I had AA 7 times in 800 hands and end up losing 3/4 of a stack with it overall....

It was one of those nights when you have the best hand and you end up splitting or getting counterfeited. Kind of frustrating but that's poker. I just never really won any huge pots to offset the ones I lost. So anyway, Goat has surely taken the lead.... My total is a whopping +$60......

So, now for some responses...

Re: biondino... you have a good point. People bet and raise at $25 a lot, but there is less deception to it. Maybe $50 SH is a totally different game than $50 FR as well. Either way, I am just about done at $25...wanted to play 20K hands and I am approaching that figure quickly.

Galapogos....I considered cold-calling as well. As I had said, I was trying for isolation and I thought button had a decent unpaired hand, a sooted connector where he thought his cards were live, or a middle pair. I thought I might be able to fold his AT-AQ. He wasn't horrible, but I thought his cold call strange. Looking at it now, he had a hand where he didn't care if I called or not. I don't think I can fold this preflop unless the guy had 10/5 type stats. I still don't mind the reraise, but there is something to be said for calling and evaluating flop.

Bottom line was I overestimated my fold equity, and in the heat of the moment I didn't think calling was even close. I folded. I do a lot better in this kind of situation heads up because the percentages are easier to figure quickly. Three way makes the percentages more difficult. I was patting myself on the back for a good fold, but in looking at it in detail, it was really a mistake! BTW, Shorty had 77 and button had AK, shorty hit the set on the flop and the turn was an A.

No poka for me tonight, which sucks. My girl has a basketball game at 8:30 in the morning, and rather than try to get her out of bed at 7 and on the road (didn't work so well last week), we are going to stay at my sister in law's, one hour away from my house but 5 minutes from the game. Since I play on a PC and not a laptop, no hands for me until tomorrow night!!!

[cardsman1992]

I knew it was coming.....Last night wasn't great. Down $210 to put me -$150 for the prop bet with Goat...

I did pop open one $200 table and ended up more or less breakeven on it. However, I made one incredibly horrible deep mistake that made a big difference.

I know how the mistake was made in that hand. However, I would like some input on these hands. A couple of these checkraises I think are bad, but I want to know what you think!

Villain was reasonable, but I was trying to fold out AQ-AT. Didn't figure he would fold AK/AA/KK, and not so sure he would definitely reraise those hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($132)
SB ($104.45)
BB ($123.30)
UTG ($150.70)
UTG+1 ($40.90)
MP1 ($91.05)
cardsman ($100)
CO ($118.45)

Preflop: cardsman is MP2 with 7, 8.
UTG calls $1, MP1 calls $1, cardsman raises to $6, CO calls $6, 4 folds, MP1 calls $5.

Flop: ($20.50) 7, A, K (4 players)
MP1 checks, cardsman checks, CO bets $9, MP1 folds, cardsman calls $9.

Turn: ($38.50) 9 (3 players)
cardsman checks, CO bets $11, cardsman raises to $85 (All-In).....


Villain in the next hand is a little LAGGY, but not hyper. I think this hand if I am going to play postflop, I should either lead or call. I think i could probably CRAI in here and have some fold equity. What do you think of the bet size?

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP3 ($29.20)
CO ($122.85)
Button ($23)
SB ($83.75)
cardsman ($102.50)
UTG ($40.30)
UTG+1 ($101.50)
MP1 ($53.20)
MP2 ($53.75)

Preflop: cardsman is BB with A, 8.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 3 folds, CO calls $4, 2 folds, cardsman calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) A, 9, T (3 players)
cardsman checks, UTG+1 bets $9, CO calls $9, cardsman raises to $36......

Villain here was a 31/2/2 type. I have TPGK here OOP and I never think I play it well. I know I could be up against AK here, but even this guy should reraise that.....Did I take an okay line here? Block the river better?

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+1 ($109.40)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($93)
CO ($96.50)
Button ($75.70)
SB ($109.55)
cardsman ($100)
UTG ($65.10)

Preflop: cardsman is BB with A, Q.
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, cardsman raises to $7, MP2 calls $5, Button folds.

Flop: ($14.50) A, 6, K (2 players)
cardsman bets $10, MP2 calls $10.

Turn: ($34.50) 5 (2 players)
cardsman checks, MP2 bets $15, cardsman calls $15.

River: ($64.50) 7 (2 players)
cardsman checks, MP2 bets $26, cardsman calls $26.

Final Pot: $116.50

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

Hand 1: i think you should c/r to like $35 or so. $85 is just spewy imo, since he is going to call or raise you with A-A/A-K/K-K anyways (though i doubt he is holding those hands, based on his actions), and a $35 raise doesn't really pot commit you. Overall, this is a good spot for a c/r but just make it smaller.

Hand 2: looks good to me. I think CO could be holding a draw in this spot. Give him a reasonable price to see the turn. Hope it is a FD and you can stack him. UTG probably has A-Q+, but i wouldn't be surprised if he dumped his hand on the turn due to the strength of your bets.

Hand 3: I also hate these spots. It looks like A-Q+/two pair/set by the river. I think you can actually fold, seeing how strong his line is. I think you could have gotten away from this on the turn by making a small probe bet there to see where you were. If he just called it was more likely you would be against A-Q or worse, and if you got raised you could have folded.

[cardsman1992]

+$600 tonight thanks to overbet pushes on the river with the nuts 3 or 4 times that got called. Once on the $200 tables 135BB deep. Back in the game!!!!!

Played decent outside of a couple of lucky re-drawouts...

+$450!

Not a bad 2 hours work.....

[cardsman1992]

Decent session...I will try to find some interesting hands later. Mostly ABC....

1000 hands, +136.

Total for prop bet +$585.

April stats below. Please comment on anything glaring.....I did notice I did not check raise the river once.....and that I am not cbetting/raising nearly as much as I used to. Like from 70+ % to 65%.

.25 hands are 6 max only...

[zook]

Quick glance... your W$@SD at 100NL FR is low. You're either running bad or showing down too many marginal hands.

Your VPIP from early position is pretty high. You must be open-limping from UTG and UTG+1 fairly often? I'd cut that out of your game. Tough to analyze the other position stats since they're a mixture of FR and 6-max.

Nice month!

[cardsman1992]

Hand 1: i think you should c/r to like $35 or so. $85 is just spewy imo, since he is going to call or raise you with A-A/A-K/K-K anyways (though i doubt he is holding those hands, based on his actions), and a $35 raise doesn't really pot commit you. Overall, this is a good spot for a c/r but just make it smaller.

He did have AK and I didn't hit any of my 12 outs....


Hand 2: looks good to me. I think CO could be holding a draw in this spot. Give him a reasonable price to see the turn. Hope it is a FD and you can stack him. UTG probably has A-Q+, but i wouldn't be surprised if he dumped his hand on the turn due to the strength of your bets.

I flushed turn against his set. We got it all in on turn and he boated the river....

Hand 3: I also hate these spots. It looks like A-Q+/two pair/set by the river. I think you can actually fold, seeing how strong his line is. I think you could have gotten away from this on the turn by making a small probe bet there to see where you were. If he just called it was more likely you would be against A-Q or worse, and if you got raised you could have folded.

He had 66 for the set and I actually was pleased at the time that I didn't lose more on this hand. Looking at it now, turn bet/fold would be better line I think.

[Da GOAT]

Total for prop bet +$585.

im minus $550 im sure but hey long way to go

[cardsman1992]

Quick glance... your W$@SD at 100NL FR is low. You're either running bad or showing down too many marginal hands.

Probably a little of both. I have never been a 50% guy, but I would feel better if that were 47% or preferably higher.

Your VPIP from early position is pretty high. You must be open-limping from UTG and UTG+1 fairly often? I'd cut that out of your game. Tough to analyze the other position stats since they're a mixture of FR and 6-max.

I will try to pull that together to see what I am limping with that I can raise. I sometimes limp small pairs in those two positions, and KJs/ATs type hands. I am curious to what the other hands are.

Did you note the blind play? I am playing goot out of the blinds these days.....

Nice month!

You too!! Congrats again on the tourney cash. My total including my RB payment for the month was $3500. It took me most of my life to make that in a month at my normal job!!!!! Pretty proud of myself right now but I have a lot of work to do to improve....

[cardsman1992]

+$250 last night, mostly at $200 tables. Total for bet=+$835.

Here are some badly played hands, for any newbs that might be reading. I always get burnt when I don't play monsters fast. That's one of the ways I know I am playing badly....here are two fun ones. Both hands I should raise flop....and I know it!!

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UTG ($319.70)
UTG+1 ($80.15)
Hero ($404.25)
MP2 ($178.65)
MP3 ($119.55)
CO ($226.85)
Button ($228.25)
SB ($41.30)
BB ($199.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8, 8.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 5 folds, BB calls $8, UTG+1 calls $8.

Flop: ($31) A, 2, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $8, Hero calls $8, BB folds.

Turn: ($47) 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $47, Hero raises to $94, UTG+1 calls $15.15 (All-In).

River: ($203.15) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $203.15

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Hero ($32.50)
Button ($25.40)
SB ($31.25)
BB ($25)
UTG ($24.40)
MP ($29.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 3 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) Q, 3, 9 (2 players)
MP bets $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($4.35) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3.75, MP raises to $7.5, Hero raises to $34.25 (All-In), MP calls $19.55 (All-In).

River: ($65.65) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $65.65

Help me out here--limp/caller is a 48/5 type, the other villain is a Lag, 38/12/3 and we have some history, plus I sucked a flush out on him in the first orbit when he gave free card...I feel like I was ahead on flop, but turn sucked. Can I bet this river or is that just throwing money away?

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BB ($312.70)
UTG ($134.30)
Hero ($304.80)
MP1 ($192)
MP2 ($234.10)
MP3 ($235.80)
CO ($154.05)
Button ($36.30)
SB ($181.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, A.
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 5 folds, SB calls $9, 1 fold, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($32) 3, A, 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20, SB calls $20.

Turn: ($92) J (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($92) K (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $92

Same laggy villain as in above hand, and other villain is a bit tight passive. Laggy boy's call threw me off. Should I push river or am I afraid of monsters? I thought he might be drawing to higher flush... I think my turn check is fine, but input there appreciated as well.

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UTG ($309.70)
UTG+1 ($152.70)
Hero ($298.35)
MP2 ($180.95)
MP3 ($229.10)
CO ($236.80)
Button ($151.05)
SB ($32.30)
BB ($185.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8, T.
UTG raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, 3 folds, Button calls $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($25) 6, K, 2 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20, Button folds, BB calls $20.

Turn: ($85) 3 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($85) J (3 players)
BB bets $64, UTG folds, Hero calls $64.

Final Pot: $213

This one is fun, just because I can't figure out why he folded in such a large pot....

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MP3 ($174.15)
CO ($191.90)
Hero ($201.85)
SB ($42.65)
BB ($96)
UTG ($273.65)
UTG+1 ($98.35)
MP1 ($98.40)
MP2 ($540.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 7.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $14, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($39) 6, 9, 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $24, UTG+1 calls $24.

Turn: ($87) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($87) 5 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $26, Hero raises to $98, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $211

[Da GOAT]

ok im ready for my upswing please.

Prop Bet: -$435

im not too worried coz i THINK ill get a huge chance alot this weekend

[cardsman1992]

The last couple of days have been rough. I have dropped $400 in the last two days. Yesterday was just a day where I couldn't hit the board to save my life, and I would get called down by second pair. Betting draws that didn't come in, etc. I paid off one set for a stack when I should have known when I was beat. That was stupid....

Hopefully the weekend will be kind to me!!

Prop bet total=$435

[djzcko]

keep up the grind man. You are goot enough to make your goal. Wishing you nothing but the best...

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

hope tonight went better for you. When i saw you it looked like you were doing quite well

[Da GOAT]

how you doing now?

this could be the hardest $50 ill ever earn

Im still deep in thered, will update when i check at home.

[cardsman1992]

Haven't posted for a few days.....been a busy weekend.

Weekend poka was a mixed bag for me. All told I was a net -$60 for Fri/Sat nights, and I didn't play at all on Sunday. Last night, I was fortunate to hit a good run of cards and had a $490 profit for the night. My total for the prop bet is +$894. Right now my table mix is:

2 tables $200 FR
3 tables $100 FR
3 tables $25 6max--I have gone over my 20K goal, so I should move this on up to $50 or $100. However, in the last 2+ weeks (since the prop bet started), I have dropped 7+ buyins and my winrate was down to 4 ptbb/100, so I am conflicted as to whether to move up ("this was mostly due to variance") or stay down ("this was more likely bad play"). I haven't gone through my hands thoroughly enough yet to make that decision. I have trouble at times convincing myself that I am really behind to a 60/43, and also probably don't reraise these guys light enough.

I am pleased with my progress from the beginning of the year at $100 FR. For a long time I was breakeven to slightly losing. I seem to have that turned around. Now I am easing myself into the $200 tables. The game seems only slightly more aggro, but not too much more difficult. I have to get over the mental block of losing a $200 stack as well.

I will look for some $25 hands to post.

[Da GOAT]

im -$897

[zook]

Nice C-man! Know you can beat 200NL, but you're right to ease into it. E-mail me if you want reads/stats on any regulars. And get the hell out of 25NL 6-max! I'd move up to 100NL, but at LEAST 50!

[cardsman1992]

Quick report--I am off to the park for a field trip with my daughter today "Daddy, will you come on my field trip PLEASE??" How could I say no....so a half day off work for me.

No poka tonight, it's my bday and I will be going out for a beer or three.

Last night was pretty solid, started out losing with a set at $200, so that sucked, but made it back with another set in short time. 6 max sucked. Amazing what they will call PFR with....QJ off, T6, pretty much anything. Good thing my other tables were rolling along well.

For the night, I was +$390. +$1284 for the prop bet.

Back to the grind on Thurs....I will prolly post in Goat's thread later.....

[zook]

Happy birthday c-man!

[Da GOAT]

Happy Birthday Mr. President

[cardsman1992]

Thank you, guys!

[cardsman1992]

Played for a while last night, normal mix of tables. +$67 for the night. +$1351 for the prop bet.

Started off once again paying off a set at the $200 tables. Sucked because I should have known and folded my overpair....I had a feeling I was beat and didn't go with it.

Ended up with 3.3 buyins on my other $200 table, though, so I was pleased with that. Up a little over $200 for the night at $200.

Sucked at $100 though, down 1.5 buyins there.

Breakeven at 6 max.

I may not get a chance to play tonight, which will be good because I may actually find the hands I want to post instead!!!

[cardsman1992]

BTW--Miffed, if you are out there lurking....

I was checking my $100 FR stats and I am just a tick under 6ptBB/100 over last 25K hands. I actually feel I am playing decently (for me, anyway). I see you talking about running 10ptBB/100 over good sized samples.....

HOW IN THE WORLD CAN I GET THERE???????

[cardsman1992]

No real reads here. I think flop bet is automatic, but wonder about turn.....

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CO ($34.20)
Button ($197)
SB ($190)
Hero ($251.85)
UTG ($146.65)
UTG+1 ($78.30)
MP1 ($219.60)
MP2 ($205.15)
MP3 ($158)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, Q.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $7, 4 folds, Hero raises to $23, MP2 calls $14.

Flop: ($45) A, K, J (2 players)
Hero bets $34, MP2 calls $34.

Turn: ($113) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $50, Hero .........

Here, villain is 30/2 type. Turn push here is goot or dangerous?

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SB ($129.95)
BB ($105.20)
UTG ($39.90)
UTG+1 ($129.40)
MP1 ($98.50)
MP2 ($182)
MP3 ($104.25)
CO ($95)
Hero ($103)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG+1 raises to $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $10, MP2 calls $10, CO folds.

Flop: ($39.50) A, 9, 9 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $28, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $28.

Turn: ($95.50) 5 (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $63 ....

Villain here is 30/4 type who I have raised/reraised a couple of times at this table and is probably tired of my crap. I think I played this one badly all around. He may have an ace here, but I think he is prepared to lead into me with plastic. Please flame away....

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SB ($140.95)
BB ($100)
UTG ($104.80)
UTG+1 ($122.50)
MP1 ($97)
MP2 ($98.50)
MP3 ($99)
CO ($95)
Hero ($102.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K.
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $7.50, BB calls $7, MP1 calls $7, MP2 calls $7, MP3 folds.

Flop: ($41) K, 5, A (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $24, Hero calls $24, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($89) 8 (2 players)
MP2 bets $24, Hero calls $24.

River: ($137) J (2 players)
MP2 bets $24, Hero calls $24.

Final Pot: $185

Villain here is a rock and I figure him for Ax as much as anything else. I think once again I took a bad line.....

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Hero ($405.95)
Button ($621.95)
SB ($142.20)
BB ($324.45)
UTG ($250.90)
UTG+1 ($200)
MP1 ($182.05)
MP2 ($183.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 3.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, Hero raises to $12, Button calls $12, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $10, MP2 calls $10.

Flop: ($51) 5, A, 4 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($51) 3 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $51, Hero calls $51, Button folds, UTG+1 folds.

River: ($153) K (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $153

Villain here is a 27/8 type and is slightly aggro postflop....

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MP2 ($140.75)
MP3 ($40.50)
CO ($154.25)
Button ($85)
Hero ($228.95)
BB ($87.55)
UTG ($149.70)
UTG+1 ($40)
MP1 ($111.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 4.
6 folds, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 9, 2, A (3 players)
Hero bets $2, BB folds, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($7) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($15) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button calls $10.

Final Pot: $35

I need to find some more hands, but this is a start....

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

Hand 1: i think this is one good reason not to 3bet OOP without a real hand. I think A-Q is a fine hand to open with IP and 3bet IP, but OOP the hand becomes difficult to play on the flop particularly in spots like this without any info on how your opponent liked the flop. I say it is very possible your opponent is holding J-J/A-K in this spot. Either way, i don't think he would be holding a hand like A-10 AND play it this way often enough to make continuing with the hand beyond the turn +EV. I think the best play may be to call preflop and c/c donk turn on an Ace high flop like this one.

Hand 2: Looking at his stats i can see him calling 2 streets with A-10/A-J so i might just value bet to maximize EV against the hands you beat. I don't know often a turn push gets called by a hand weaker than A-Q. And, it looks to me like he has 9-x here lots. I don't think i can ever fold this hand at any point, though i might also check behind the turn.

Hand 3: Weird hand -- too confusing for me right now. Leaving it for someone more knowledgable...

Hand 4: I really don't like isolating limpers with a hand as weak as 5-3s. 7-5s+ i do this but 5-3 is a little weak for me. As played i don't mind a flop check -- it seems quite likely at least someone has hit an Ace. Turn brings you an ugly two pair and when faced with such a strong bet i am more than willing to let the hand go. I certainly don't think he has A-K or some other big Ace here as often as he has straight/set/A-5 and other two pair combos, so calling seems -EV.

[zook]

1. c/f turn I think. Tough to figure out what you're beating here.

2. Good.

3. Fold flop.

4. Turn is tough spot. PSB probably means a set or str8 from a rock and not Ax. But 3 Ax's beat you... maybe a little weak but I fold the turn.

5. Pot river.

[cardsman1992]

Sat night, approx 400 hands, -$20.

First session this afternoon, 1100 hands, +$97. I ran KK into AA for a stack at $200 where he pushed over my 4 bet. He was in the 20/5 range. Is that a spot where you fold KK? I couldn't do it even though the little man on my shoulder said "that's AA". Another hand I three bet on the button with AJs. I get called by MP2 (original PFR) flop gives me nothing but a gutshot, he checks, I bet, he raises, there goes half a stack at $200.....

Will play another couple of hours tonight.......

[cardsman1992]

The evening went well, finished Sunday up $335. Not too shabby considering I lost a $200 stack with KK vs AA as I mentioned, and paid off a set at $200 for a stack. It felt like I was running KK into AA a lot more than I was supposed to statistically, but I ran my last 15K hands or so and it was 5 out of 93, so only a little more than normal.

Here is a picture of this past week's sessions, and sessions since April 23, when my prop bet with Goat started. I think I am playing a little loosely, and my W$SD is still worse than I want, but I guess since I seem to be running well I won't quibble about that....LOL....



No more $25 6 max for me--I have convinced myself that my bad streak at $25 was more variance than horrible play. Starting $50 tomorrow and play 10K-20K hands, thinking 5-6 ptBB/100 is realistic.

[zook]

Nice work! Glad to see have a nice winrate going at 200NL. Almost ready to move up full-time?

But get out of 25NL 6-max! WTF?!

[Da GOAT]

Ugh i hate you, your so far ahead im losing sight of ye. Will check when im home but im still way in the red at the moment.

Ive dropped t0 100NL but im 8 tabling FR on Everest for a more financial reason (just to catch up with ye) rather then improving at 6max.

[cardsman1992]

Nice work! Glad to see have a nice winrate going at 200NL. Almost ready to move up full-time?

But get out of 25NL 6-max! WTF?!

Hadn't looked at my $200 stats as a bucket, so I hadn't thought about it. I do know that I am down overall (including my first attempt from Jan-Mar) at $200 about one buyin. I think I will add another table starting this week, making my mix 3 $200 FR, 2 $100 FR, and 3 $50 6 max...

PS Goat....the best thing I ever did for my FR game was play 6 max. I know I have said that before, but it's true!!

You should cream FR now.

[biondino]

Lads, lads - you get in about 40% more hands playing 6max. It's a no-brainer, especially since you're having a race

[cardsman1992]

I suck at 6 max though.....at least I think I do....