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  1. #1
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    Default wtf?

    pretty much just sat. Villain #1 donks out, I raise, villain #2 cold calls... Villain #1 folds... I check a good turn to the cold caller and he chekcs through, so i valuebet river and he raises? This whole hand makes no fucking sense to me.

    AMOSITE - Posts small blind $0.50
    DALLAS8800 - Posts big blind $1
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to EUPHOLOGI [Qd Jh]
    FORCEWITHME - Folds
    EUPHOLOGI - Raises $4 to $4
    1254AM - Calls $4
    PASTY_POKER - Folds
    AMOSITE - Calls $3.50
    DALLAS8800 - Folds
    *** FLOP *** [As Qc 5c]
    AMOSITE - Bets $2
    EUPHOLOGI - Raises $12 to $12
    1254AM - Calls $12
    AMOSITE - Folds
    *** TURN *** [As Qc 5c] [Qh]
    EUPHOLOGI - Checks
    1254AM - Checks
    *** RIVER *** [As Qc 5c Qh] [6h]
    EUPHOLOGI - Bets $12
    1254AM - Raises $38 to $38
    EUPHOLOGI - ...
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    1254AM also has a queen? he's slowplaying the turn and valuebetting the river.

    1245AM could have flopped a set. he could also just be a donk and be bluffing, have AK, busted flush draw, some kind of weird random hand. what kind of player is he?

    i think you should just call the river. it's 26 to call into a pot of 89 (minus rake). easy call. only have to be ahead 22.6% of the time to call here. easy call. i don't think reraising is a good idea on the river.

    also, i think you should probably bet the turn. don't let villain draw for free. also, you want calls from an ace. checking does give some deception though

    you're river bet is very poor. why are you betting 12 into a pot of 39 (minus rake). you should be betting $20+ on the river. you should get a call from an ace on the river. and an ace is likely to call your river bet because you slowed down on the turn.
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    he has a boat.
    Unless you know hes awful its a c/c river.
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    i agree with pokerroomace. i'd prob bet the turn and river, not sure what stacks are though...
    as played, not sure about checking or betting. i lean to betting though, just stronger.
    river raise pretty much reps a boat like miffed said, but u bet weak and draws missed so i'd call.
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    I call against an unknown here, because his line makes no sense to me. Also I would bet more on the river (for value of course)
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    I think he has 55 alot but he has a Q enough to call the river.
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    call river, bet turn
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    call river, bet turn
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    put cold caller on a range on flop

    dont you think u want to build a pot against it on turn?
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    He's bluffing the missed FD or has a weak Q. That weak flop bet screams "let me draw for cheap". If you were running over the tables before this, he may have the boat and was hoping you would catch the FD. Either way you have to call after checking the turn. Your line looks as much like a FD as his.
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
    That weak flop bet screams "let me draw for cheap".
    there is no weak flop bet. the player that made the weak bet folded on the flop
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  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
    He's bluffing the missed FD or has a weak Q. That weak flop bet screams "let me draw for cheap". If you were running over the tables before this, he may have the boat and was hoping you would catch the FD. Either way you have to call after checking the turn. Your line looks as much like a FD as his.
    How likely is it that he puts us on a missed draw and raises the river? The vast majority of players would just call there.
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    I bet 1/3rd of the pot on river hoping to get a call from a weak A but I figured villains most likely hand was the flush draw so I didnt think it much mattered.
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  14. #14
    i agree with pelion that he isn't raising because he thinks we have a busted flush draw. but he could have a weak Q.
    the odds are good. easy call. end of
    Quote Originally Posted by euphoricism
    I bet 1/3rd of the pot on river hoping to get a call from a weak A but I figured villains most likely hand was the flush draw so I didnt think it much mattered.
    of course it matters.
    you're giving up on a potential $8-12. he calls the bet less, but you're still losing out on about $5.
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