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  1. #1

    Default Played right? Bet differently?

    Looking for input on how I played these 2 hands. Were the bet amounts correct? Mainly a S/G player. Just starting to dabble in the ring games.

    hand 1

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($33.40)
    Hero ($48.25)
    CO ($8.35)
    Button ($38.50)
    SB ($59.25)
    BB ($31.10)
    UTG ($65.10)
    UTG+1 ($50.25)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
    3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5Is this bet high enough?, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1.

    Flop: ($4.50) 8, 8, 6 (3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, BB calls $2. i put him on A-10+ or over pair to the bord

    Turn: ($8.50) 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $4. [b]Does he raise here with a draw?[/b}

    River: ($24.50) 7 (2 players)
    BB bets $8.5, Hero folds. good or bad fold

    Final Pot: $33
    ---------------

    Hand 2

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($23.80)
    Hero ($37.45)
    BB ($16.60)
    UTG ($39.70)
    UTG+1 ($58.50)
    MP1 ($42.15)
    MP2 ($64.35)
    MP3 ($12)
    CO ($29.25)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, Q. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
    4 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($1.50) A, T, J (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.5, BB folds, MP3 calls $0.50.testing the waters w/ my bet here. I have the suited Q. Good or bad

    Turn: ($2.50) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 checks.[b]I hit my 6. Should I have checked this?{/b]

    River: ($2.50) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1, MP3 raises to $3.5, Hero calls $2.50. Would you lay this down or pay off the better flush

    Final Pot: $9.50
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  2. #2
    If you like to make money, you need to risk more on your premium holdings...

    Hand 1. -- $2 at least PreFlop...PSB (Pot size bet) on the flop, then the Turn would be the decision street. 3/4 to PSB and see what opps action is here whether or not to felt the hand. As played, not a terrible fold on the river, there are a LOT of probable hands that beat you here.

    Hand 2. -- Fold PF. Seriously. Limping from the SB with Crap like this is a good way to lose a lot of money. Don't min-bet unless you are trying to be sneaky for a reason (i.e. you have a monster and want someone to bluff you), if you want to test the waters to see what you may be up against, throw a PSB out there. Turn does not help you, but if you had bet strong on the flop, you could be able to fire a 2nd barrel here and likely fold your villian, as played, check is your best option here, and you would have to fold to a PSB from villian. River is not a bad blocking bet given the size of the pot, but 9/10 times the only thing that villian is going to raise with here on a 4 flush board is the Unless you are 90% sure that he would bluff with air or the here, you should confidently fold your 2nd best hand. On the whole though, this was a small pot where calling is not the worst decision ever made...

    GL!

    Chris
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  3. #3
    Thanks for the input Chris. Definitely a bit different than S/G's.

    I thought the AA pre flop raise was weak. So a 3/4 - PSB is the right bet to find out where you are in a hand? On the second hand.....if I put in a PSB on the turn (I caught the 6 with the Qh) would people tend to fold to that holding the K? The opp wouldn't be getting the right price to call holding his nut flush draw. Would that be a decent play to try to make him fold?
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  4. #4
    Don't let the results of a particular hand skew your judgement of the proper play in a similar situation.

    I hesitate to say that any play is the "right" play for every situation, but being generally aggressive makes it a lot easier to define your and your opponents hands.

    I don't think that catching that 6 on the turn improved your hand enough to bet. After your flop min-bet, a PSB MAY fold the villian, but keep in mind you may or may not have the best hand at that moment and are drawing to 2nd nuts here; you don't want to unneccesarily bloat the pot by having him call a PSB here, you want to win or lose a small pot. That is part of the reason that an aggressive bet on the flop would've set up different opportunities on the other streets, because you would've learned more about the range of hands that he would likely call the flop bet with.

    Bottom line is that it was a limped into pot, with very little action, there are a million and one different ways to play it. But the FOREFRONT of thoughts of this hand should be that you fold it pre-flop from now on so you don't find yourself in these types of situations!...ok??
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  5. #5
    I fold the river in hand 2. He would be doing this with 9h? I just don't see it.
  6. #6
    I didnt see where your playing at but on fulltilt i use the pot button as my standard pf raise, 4x on others. A standard cbet is for me is 3/4 pot, no reason to do a psb on this flop, as its not very likely hes drawing to anything and your either wa/wb. On the turn his minraise is kind of strange, but it looks like your playing really weakly. I call the turn raise and river bet since your getting 4:1.

    Hand 2 i fold pf. No reason to bet on the flop either since your not really getting anyone to fold with a minbet that has any sort of hand. A Kh is calling, most aces, two pair etc. The 6 does nothing for your hand either. On river just try to show it down, the only hand your beating is the 9h which is very likely to call a bet or raise in this spot.


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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by dsmrolla06
    Try not to listen to spenda on any advice he gives either.
    This might be this best advice you will ever get.

    I will soooooon be vindicated in an epic HU SNG battle.
  8. #8
    Awesome. Will make sure I keep that in mind

    Thanks for the advice. Bottom line is the call, even from the SB, was the fatal error in hand 2. I would never do that in a S/G so why do it here. IDIOT!

    Great point on bloating the pot also. Bad move here big time. trying to learn the types of hands where you want to generate a pot.
    It's not how many pots you win, it's what's in them that counts.

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