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TT in a 3bet pot

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  1. #1

    Default TT in a 3bet pot

    Opponent is a multi-tabling TAGG (22/14/2) and a solid winner. I've seen him 3bet once and it was AQo in position to a PF minraise. Im just making sure this is standard. My plan although it may not have been correct was to either:
    a. flop a set (ld0)
    b. call any flop bet on a good board and evaluate the turn
    c. fold any A/K flops

    And no, I cannot get the AP HH converter to work and wildhurst's is screwing up for me.

    STAGE #700874016: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $0.50 - 2007-07-06 21:22:58 (ET)
    Table: CHIRIKOF AVE (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
    Seat 6 - NEUMABR ($71.20 in chips)
    Seat 1 - RIVERUTD ($94.30 in chips)
    Seat 3 - TALISKER18 ($63.47 in chips)
    Seat 4 - DEEEEZNUTS ($59.93 in chips)
    Seat 5 - TRPKNGS ($38.68 in chips)
    RIVERUTD - Posts small blind $0.25
    TALISKER18 - Posts big blind $0.50
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to DEEEEZNUTS [10s 10h]
    DEEEEZNUTS - Raises $2 to $2
    TRPKNGS - Calls $2
    NEUMABR - Folds
    RIVERUTD - Raises $7.75 to $8
    TALISKER18 - Folds
    DEEEEZNUTS - Calls $6
    TRPKNGS - Folds
    *** FLOP *** [8s 6d 2h]
    RIVERUTD - Bets $13
    DEEEEZNUTS - Calls $13
    *** TURN *** [8s 6d 2h] [5s]
    RIVERUTD - Bets $41
    DEEEEZNUTS - Folds
    RIVERUTD - returned ($41) : not called
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    RIVERUTD - Does not show
    RIVERUTD Collects $42.30 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot($44.50) | Rake ($2.20)
    Board [8s 6d 2h 5s]
    Seat 1: RIVERUTD (small blind) collected Total ($42.30) HI$42.30) [Does not show]
    Seat 3: TALISKER18 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: DEEEEZNUTS Folded on the TURN
    Seat 5: TRPKNGS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 6: NEUMABR (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
  2. #2
    This is pretty standard for me postflop, I don't think opp is exploiting you so flop calls are fine.

    However pre is a fold IMO. I dont expect this guy to threebet lighter than AA-JJ/AK to an UTG raise, and you don't have set odds.
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    Preflop you dont have set odds. But postflop is pretty standard. He means business w/ that turn bet.
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  4. #4
    Set odds, I don't need no stinking set odds. I have TT for gods' sake!!

    In all seriousness though, turning TT into just a set-huting hand seems ridiculous to me in position. Also, if his range is as tight as we're thinking then I'm getting pretty darn close to set odds and the hand should play easily most of time. I forgot to include that he stacks off super-easy for a reg with 1pr hands.
  5. #5
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    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
    5 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    Hero: $59.93
    CO: $38.68
    Button: $71.20
    SB: $94.30
    BB: $63.47

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with T T
    Hero raises to $2, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises to $8, BB folds, Hero calls, CO folds.

    Flop: 8 6 2 ($18.5, 2 players)
    SB bets $13, Hero calls.

    Turn: 5 ($44.5, 2 players)
    SB bets $41, Hero folds.
    Uncalled bets: $41 returned to SB.

    Results:
    Final pot: $44.5
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Set odds, I don't need no stinking set odds. I have TT for gods' sake!!

    In all seriousness though, turning TT into just a set-huting hand seems ridiculous to me in position.
    Do you disagree that his threebetting range is AA-JJ/AK most likely. How exactly can we not set hunt here?

    I'm quoting sbrugby here: Players I fear are players who can lay down there hand regardless of its strength.
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  7. #7
    without a read i guess folding this is fine. you need to find out if he's double barreling strong with AK here.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    without a read i guess folding this is fine. you need to find out if he's double barreling strong with AK here.
    If he's threebetting light than i dont mind playing it this way but for now since AK is 1/5th of his range and he's not always, if ever, two barreling AK it's an easy fold.
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