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    Default Turn top two pair - facing turn mini-raise...

    Hand #44558939-736 at Revere (No Limit Hold'em)
    Started at 18/Jul/07 23:12:31

    qbler is at seat 0 with $128.
    eightKrpm is at seat 1 with $47.55.
    bigdawg7887 is at seat 2 with $48.25.
    Muppet Style is at seat 3 with $125.50.
    CutBait777 is at seat 4 with $52.35.
    NTT is at seat 5 with $50.
    dddbearcat is at seat 6 with $14.
    HERO is at seat 7 with $50.
    j-philli is at seat 8 with $77.05.
    pacmann31 is at seat 9 with $15.
    The button is at seat 2.

    Muppet Style posts the small blind of $.25.
    CutBait777 posts the big blind of $.50.
    (NTT did not post OT, is sitting out.)

    qbler: -- --
    eightKrpm: -- --
    bigdawg7887: -- --
    Muppet Style: -- --
    CutBait777: -- --
    dddbearcat: -- --
    HERO: 8h Ah
    j-philli: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    dddbearcat calls. HERO calls. j-philli calls.
    qbler folds. eightKrpm folds. bigdawg7887 folds.
    Muppet Style folds. CutBait777 checks.

    Flop (board: 7h 8d 5c):

    CutBait777 checks. dddbearcat checks. HERO bets
    $2.25. j-philli calls. CutBait777 folds.
    dddbearcat folds.

    Turn (board: 7h 8d 5c As):

    HERO bets $6.75. j-philli raises to $15.

    What do i do?
  2. #2
    First thing is that villain is taking a strong line here. He MAY be calling the flop because he has a strong hand and wants the others to come along. Then he raises the turn because he wants to build the pot. In that case he has a set or he flopped an unlikely str8. He could also have 78 although he might raise to protect that hand. The other possibily is he has a strong draw like 67.

    The ace on the turn seems unlikely to have helped him, if he had a strong ace he should have raised pf and his flop call was loose. So is he still drawing and using position to bet what might be a scare card? Or is he just strong and raising regardless... You're out of position and guessing so I would fold. Be good to hear better player's thoughts though.
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    Are you thinking of folding to this raise? Of course not! So let's prepare for the worst case scenerio against a weaker hand:

    His hand is 67. = 10 outs. = 20% to win. So, let's raise more than 20% of his potential profit.

    Pot is $28.50 @ the time of his raise.Villain has $60 behind. His potential profit = $28+60 = $88. 20% of this is $18. So raise AT LEAST another $18.... say to $35.

    If villain has a better hand than our top two pair, we have 9% to win and say nh. If villain puts anymore $ into the pot, he's fucking up and putting you through college.

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