A few 25NL hands-- basic questions for the seasoned players

[drtofu66]

******* Hand 1 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.35
UTG+1: $51.75
CO: $23.35
Hero: $23.10
SB: $21.45
BB: $33.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB raises to $3.5, , Hero...

70 hands on villain, 9.5%/5.2%
Ok, easy one first-- I know it's not wrong to 4bet here, obviously. Someone this tight is probably going with KK but does he know to fold QQ/AK to a 4bet? How much do you 4bet here? $5.25-6 to go? Calling and getting it all in on the flop is probably not ideal at 6max, but against this guy maybe?

******* Hand 2 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $14.20
UTG+1: $29.80
Hero: $24.75
Button: $30.10
SB: $8.15
BB: $21.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A A
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 5 6 3 ($3.1, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls.

Turn: A ($7.1, 2 players)
Hero...

Villain's a TAG-- 20%/17%/17 over 100 hands.
Another easy one for you all. Just wanted to make sure I'm not getting FPS. I put him mostly on any PP so he's either got a set or board overpair or SD with 44, maybe FD. It'd be nice if he had AK/AQ but not too likely that he's holding the case A. He either thinks the A hit me with AK/AQ and he's not going to like it if he's got 99 or something; or he's going to use it as a scare card and bet. Seems like a lead here gets too many worse hands to fold, though I hate giving the free card to the FD or SD. A set/straight/straight is not going anywhere obviously but someone this aggressive probably wouldn't want to chance letting another heart fall. I'm thinking that someone this aggressive is going to bet if checked to with this board (he would if following sauce123's strategy ) so is going for the check-raise ok?


******* Hand 3 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $28.40
UTG+1: $20.50
CO: $30.05
Button: $25
SB: $50.90
BB: $23.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 3 3
Hero raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: A 8 3 ($2.65, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, UTG+1 folds, BB raises to $8, Hero...

Sorry, I know these should be pretty straightforward. I just want to make sure I'm thinking properly. I'm putting him on an A, maybe FD (is check-raising a ragged A high board with a FD fairly standard at 6max?). I'm felting to the overset obviously. Do we just call and let him get it all in on the turn for us (he'll have a bit less than a PSB on the turn if we call)? Are stacks short enough here to passively give him the turn and river cards?


******* Hand 4 ********

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $55.45
UTG+1: $3.20
CO: $86.95
Button: $26.45
SB: $21.15
Hero: $28.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, Button raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls.

Flop: 4 4 2 ($5.1, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button calls.

Turn: 3 ($13.1, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button raises to $19.75, Hero ...

New to table, no read.
Are we felting here?

******* Hand 5 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.15
UTG+1: $38.30
Hero: $23.50
Button: $27.70
SB: $25.35
BB: $40.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J K
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6 J T ($2.55, 2 players)
UTG bets $2.55, Hero raises to $10, UTG raises all-in $26.05, Hero...

No reads.
The strong flop lead HU in a raised pot. Scary.
Should I have just called the flop bet? Are we OK to get it all in here?
Are we just calling with AA-QQ and AK?

******* Hand 6 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $25
UTG+1: $42.90
CO: $27.50
Button: $31
Hero: $32.60
BB: $25.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A K
3 folds, Button raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3, BB calls, Button folds.

Flop: 3 T 8 ($6.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls.

Turn: T ($16.85, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $4 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $16.85

No read on BB.
My favorite-- unimproved AK in a 3bet pot OOP. I'm thinking this is standard but wanted to make sure this wasn't spew. That small turn bet bugged me; calling that would probably have been spew, but I wanted to check. It looks too much like a boat value betting hoping I've got an overpair or at least AcXc (he did cold-call a 3bet in the BB).

2nd question-- what would we do if we had an AA-JJ in this spot? Are we check/calling the turn top pairing or bet/folding?

******* Hand 7 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $34.40
CO: $19.05
Hero: $25.1
Button: $25.25
SB: $30.70
Hero: $22.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5 5
3 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $1, SB calls.

Flop: A 3 8 ($2, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls.

Turn: T ($5.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls.

River: T ($11.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $11.5

My second favorite-- the underpair on an A high flop. I think this is pretty standard. Should I not 2nd barrell here?

[sauce123]

i was gonna respond but got discouraged

bet a lot is my advice when u have the nuts

[djzcko]

Hand 1: A villain that tight needs to think he is ahead on the flop. You know he has KK or maybe QQ, so smooth call and let him hang himself.

Hand 2: Keep betting. You don't want to let him hit a flush for free.

Hand 3: You have position so I'd be inclined to smooth call and raise the turn allin or bet big if he checks to you. He has an A and probably will fire on the turn.

Hand 4: He prob has A4 or A5 or FD/SD. You are pot committed so I'd cry and call. Def does not look like an overpair that beats you.

Hand 5: PUSH. TPGK with FD, you gotta push/call.

Hand 6: 3 bet bigger because you are OOP. I would have bet $4 pf and then pot flop. If he is still with you on the turn then C/F if unimproved.

Hand 7: Bets were too weak. Either bet it harder to rep a strong A or go into C/F mode earlier. 2nd barrell depends on villain....reads?

[Muzzard]

Hand 1 - Either call and pray for a low flop so he can't really get away from QQ/JJ type hands. If he leads out on the flop for psb just stick it all-in. 4-betting think you should make it around 2.5x something like 8.5-9

Hand 2 - Don't check the turn, make it around $5-6 that way you'll be making a psb push on the river.

Hand 3 - Just get it all-in there on the flop.

Hand 4 - Fold I think. I cant really think of any hands that we beat if we call that would push the turn

Hand 5 - You have to call, you got the pot odds

Hand 6 - Fine, I think I would be bet folding the turn. If you're unsure whether to c/c or b/f, its usually better to b/f

Hand 7 - It depends how lose/tight your opponent is, I'm checking behind the turn and the river or folding to any significant bet

[kmind]

1. He's supertight + a 25nl player = push pre. They'll call with a lot of PPs and this villain probably has QQ or KK, which he will call.

2. Keep betting! Too drawy of a board plus lower sets will shove. You mention Sauce's guide, and if you read it then you'll see him write that it's only good to slowplay a set on a completely non-drawy board.

3. Shove now. Screw 888 if that's what he has. You beat too many hands here and his c/r makes me believe he has very little FE.

4. Preflop is iffy unless you have a read (which you do not). You are OOP and after the flop you hit two pair. He could have a full house, quads or a lower two pair obv., so I would run the same lines flop and turn, but b/f the turn.

5. Call as others have explained why

6. B/f is better than c/c in general but I think the turn is just a c/f. I don't think he has a flush draw because you have the Ac. I think you are too far behind and have to give up.

7. check turn and f/check river.

[drtofu66]

i was gonna respond but got discouraged

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Did I post too many hands? Or was it something I said? I meant no offiense. Your guide is what made me finally try SHNL in the first place and I really appreciate the advice and time you've put in here, along with bigpenda and JeffreyGB for their SH ring videos. These were amazingly helpful and shortened the SH ring learning curve considerably. By no means have I gotten the full handle on it yet, but after an early downswing getting batted around by the aggressive nature of SHNL I finally got the ship righted and erased the money I lost and am up a couple of buy-ins (for now).

At least regarding hand 2-- am I right in that being a good board to bluff at if you're sitting there with or 88 IP? It just seems that when you stop acting interested in a pot it's an open invitation for someone to take it away.

[kmind]

At least regarding hand 2-- am I right in that being a good board to bluff at if you're sitting there with or 88 IP? It just seems that when you stop acting interested in a pot it's an open invitation for someone to take it away.

At 25nl you are gaining a lot of money just by playing ABC poker and VALUE BETTING. You do not want to get too tricky at these levels because they will call you with bad cards a lot. Bluffing should be done rarely at these stakes as most just think about the two cards they have, not your holdings. I believe sauce is hinting at the fact that there is no need to slowplay or become tricky with hands like yours in #2. You will get paid off a lot more at these levels so keep betting for value. As for the two hands you suggest bluffing with, you should do a lot more semi-bluffing than complete bluffs. If you had the KhQh then yes I would semi-bluff it, not with the KdQd. With 88, I would be a little more passive as we basically only beat a draw here. I'm tired so I probably am wrong with some of what I said but oh well.

[drtofu66]

With 88, I would be a little more passive as we basically only beat a draw here. I'm tired so I probably am wrong with some of what I said but oh well.

Ok, that's the biggest flaw in my thinking. I get played back at so much more than I was used to in FR that I somehow think that they're doing it to me with air. I really need to get it through my head-- THEY'RE NOT. If villain has some mid pair in hand 2, I probably only make a little bit on the river but they more likely fold.

Villain in hand 2 actually had , so he wasn't going anywhere and it didn't matter what I did, I would have gotten paid if I'd bet the turn and river (though he probably shoves the turn anyway). As played, I did check-raise and he got it all in on the turn for me and didn't hit one of his 8 outs.

[kmind]

Nh. Also, why are your preflop bets different sometimes? One was $0.85. One time you raised a player to $1.1 the other to $1.25.

[drtofu66]

Nh. Also, why are your preflop bets different sometimes? One was $0.85. One time you raised a player to $1.1 the other to $1.25.

Random. Sometimes I open for 4xbb+1 for each limper, sometimes I raise to pot. Just to give everyone at the table something to try to decipher (if they're so inclined) that's actually meaningless. I don't think anyone's paying that much attention to my bet sizing at this level but meh it looks a little weird at least.

Hand 1 I 4bet to $10 (3x his bet size) and he folded. Overdid that one. In retrospect, I should have minraised-- it amplifies his mistake for set odds as he already put in >10x my stack size and gives him a chance to push his queens/jacks/tens/AK or just to take a flop. Even if I get setted, he already made the preflop mistake and I can get it all in and not feel that I misplayed the hand if I lose. I just thought a 9/5 guy 3betting was going to get it all in PF with <100b stacks. Meh.

Hand 3 I was up against 8s7s! I called the flop and he insta-pushed the turn as I'm sure that was his plan. Not a bad flop c/r as he's got AK/AQ pretty uncomfortable there with 15 outs twice. I'm not sure I'd contine that hand with AK/AQ; is that bad? What do you think of his play here?

Hand 4 was 6c4c. I probably should have at least thought of a pair of tens or something to get away from it, if not a boat or quads. These stinking mid-overpairs on rag boards are one of my biggest leaks that I need to plug.

Hand 5 I was up against JTo. Turned the flush and lost to the 3 out boat on the river. *sigh* At least I played it correctly.

Hand 7 was A7o. Saw this guy limp/calling Axo preflop OOP a few more times. Noted.