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river value bets too thin? 9-9/J-10o 200NL

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  1. #1

    Default river value bets too thin? 9-9/J-10o 200NL

    Hand 1). Villain is a weak TAG. If he had an Ace i am pretty sure he would raise the turn.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($207.25)
    MP ($301.40)
    CO ($254.75)
    Button ($371.80)
    Hero ($195)
    BB ($128.60)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9.
    4 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6.

    Flop: ($16) A, 8, 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $6, Hero calls $6.

    Turn: ($28) A (2 players)
    Hero bets $20, BB calls $20.

    River: ($68) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $54


    Hand 2). Villain is a weak LAG. He probably thinks i am trying to win every pot, and has called me down light in some smaller pots. I had won several small pots uncontested prior to this hand. I know this villain would raise the turn with two pair.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    Button ($278.05)
    Hero ($201)
    BB ($328.30)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
    1 fold, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6.

    Flop: ($16) , , (2 players)
    Hero bets $12, BB calls $12.

    Turn: ($40) (2 players)
    Hero bets $30, BB calls $30.

    River: ($100) (2 players)
    Hero bets $72
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  2. #2
    weird how the converter "converted" the hands differently... is my technique bad? lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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    hand 1: you think if he has A2s he would raise turn? i dont think so, but i still like betting the turn

    hand 2: nice
  4. #4
    Ya, the converter does that to me too.

    In hand 1 I really dont like the check call on the flop. You are OOP and a check call accomplishes nothing in defining your opponents hand. Either cbet or check raise. The check call and being oop makes this hand tough to play now. Is that river bet for value or a blocking bet? After turn call, i probly go into check fold, or check call small bet. Maybee a small river blocking bet (read dependant) but I doubt your getting called with worse very often.


    I think hand 2 is playd fine. If he has been calling down light. Valuetown it.
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    also i should add, the way you played the first hand is really weird, so i think it can be so confusing to villian he calls down with 76 or something just to see what u have
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    I don't mind hand 1 it just sux that he prob called with

    Hand 2 would be criminal not to bet river imo. NH.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  7. #7
    1) The J is a really bad card for you to bet on, it completes 9T, JhXh combo draws, etc.. I prefer a river check at 200nl i dont think he'll call with worse, plus you may be beat

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    I am okay with how i played hand 1 up until the river. But i think that the Jack was a much worse card than i had thought (it might scare away some of the one pair hands that may have called my turn bet, in addition to possibly having paired them again).


    Glad hand 2 got a thumbs up!
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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  9. #9
    I just cbet flop and c/c the turn on hand 1.

    hand 2 definite thumbs up.
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  10. #10
    hand 1 seems one bet too cute

    hand 2 is nice
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    hand 1 seems one bet too cute
    Yeah i want to take that bet out to dinner.
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    is 9-9 weak enough to bet/fold the flop with in hand 1?
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    if he raises yea u gotta fold, but its a good spot to bet because people float with anything there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    hand 1 seems one bet too cute
    Yeah i want to take that bet out to dinner.
    lol
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