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    Default 200NL - QQ

    I don't know much about the villain, he's only raised 2 times in 54 hands before this one:

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    8 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Profiles and Stacks:
    17.1/5.3/0.9 (76) UTG ($200.00)
    26.7/2.7/1.0 (75) UTG+1 ($198.00)
    54.5/0.0/0.7 (11) MP1 ($175.75)
    28.6/17.9/3.0 (28) MP2 ($31.00)
    17.5/6.7/2.2 (120) CO ($387.00)
    15.8/4.4/4.5 (114) Hero ($197.00)
    27.3/6.1/2.4 (66) SB ($246.80)
    37.0/22.2/15.0 (54) BB ($207.11)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 8 players) Hero is BTN
    UTG calls $2, 4 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $30, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero calls $20

    Flop: ($64, 2 players)
    SB bets $40, $40 to Hero ($167)?
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    meh, you could call and hope he slows down but I think shoving is bad. Folding is probably best
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    I'm at least calling the flop and would have a very hard time folding a non A-K turn tbh. It depends very much on the villain, this could be one to fold it....but 66 hands isn't that big of a sample.
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    I have a question. If a SB who is raising 6%, even over a small sample re-raises you (bearing in mind how tight you are playing), what is his range?

    If we narrow this down to QQ+,AK and a little air, aren't we better folding pre-flop, since we're effectively set hunting without the odds.

    Once you've called the flop and it's 3 unders, I'd feel obliged to call, but then you have the same problem if there's no A or K on the turn, and then we are pretty much committed at this point.
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    wow that converter is seriously fucking money

    anyway, i'd probably fold it the first time. You could also call and fold any turn.
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    that converter is sooooo sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    that converter is sooooo sick.
    I like it! Not sure about the little icons tho - presumably you can switch them off and just have the numbers.

    Anyway, I'd probably call the flop and fold to another bet. Against known nits I just fold the flop, or even fold pre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    that converter is sooooo sick.
    yeah I had to bookmark it. That is awesome.
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    where does the converter get stats? I assume from PT, but how does it get the info?
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    where does the converter get stats? I assume from PT, but how does it get the info?
    It says it uploads the info from your poker tracker.
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    Yo, thanks for the props. The converter is a project I've been working on for the past 4 months. I've only just started to "get it out there".

    The stats are indeed pulled from PT. In order to hook it up, you have to go through this guide: http://weaktight.com/pokertracker/

    If anyone has any questions, or needs help getting it working, let me know.
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    NICE CONVERTER OMG
    lol nice way to advertise it without spamming

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagey
    If we narrow this down to QQ+,AK and a little air, aren't we better folding pre-flop, since we're effectively set hunting without the odds.
    this is what i was thinking.
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    folding preflop is wowbad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    folding preflop is wowbad.
    i don't think so if you can put him on that narrow of a range.
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    meh, its button vs blind. You have to give this a call. Even if his range is as narrow as AK QQ+, we still do reasonably postflop assuming villain plays pretty straightforwardly (which would be a fair assumption given his stats).
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    meh, its button vs blind. You have to give this a call. Even if his range is as narrow as AK QQ+, we still do reasonably postflop assuming villain plays pretty straightforwardly (which would be a fair assumption given his stats).
    So when we get a flop with 3 unders, we have the best flop possible for us, not including set or some combo draws, why are we folding? Surely we try to call down as cheaply as possible.
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    heres a hand a HUD wont help with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagey
    meh, its button vs blind. You have to give this a call. Even if his range is as narrow as AK QQ+, we still do reasonably postflop assuming villain plays pretty straightforwardly (which would be a fair assumption given his stats).
    So when we get a flop with 3 unders, we have the best flop possible for us, not including set or some combo draws, why are we folding? Surely we try to call down as cheaply as possible.
    a T34 flop or a J66 flop is >>>> a 754 flop. Villain is rarely going to continuation bet with AK AQ here, therefore our hand isn't doing very well against his range at all.

    Like I said i don't really mind a call and fold the turn, but to be safe you can fold this with zero reads or history.
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    nice convertor
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