Thin River

[Genitruc]

Villain is running 42/25/4

How does river look? (bet is slightly over potsize)

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 06, 09:15:02 ET 2007
Table Table 127374 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: VILLAIN ( $215.29 USD )
Seat 4: zz__ZZZZ__ ( $516.03 USD )
Seat 5: checkjack77 ( $382.70 USD )
Seat 3: HERO ( $201.75 USD )
Seat 2: so_sikk ( $211.20 USD )
Seat 6: reuzendoder ( $200 USD )
zz__ZZZZ__ posts small blind [$1 USD].
checkjack77 posts big blind [$2 USD].
reuzendoder is sitting out

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO
VILLAIN raises [$6 USD]
so_sikk folds.
HERO calls [$6 USD]
zz__ZZZZ__ folds.
checkjack77 folds.

** Dealing Flop **

VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [$14 USD]
VILLAIN calls [$14 USD]

** Dealing Turn **

VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [$41 USD]
VILLAIN calls [$41 USD]

** Dealing River **

VILLAIN checks.
HERO is all-In.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I'd rather bet something like $50 for thin value and induce a shove.

[griffey24]

I don't think this is thin value.. because I don't think you can get value here with this size of bet.

There aren't many hands on this river that can call a push that we beat.

Thin value would be betting like half pot so worse hands CAN call. Why bet pot when you can just bet half pot and get a lot more calls by worse hands?

I'd bet half pot or check through here I think. Pot size bet is too big I think and sized such that we only get called when we're beat.

[zook]

From your thread title you think you're shoving for value here? WTF? I think this guy has missed overs or a missed diamond draw.

[ChrisTheFish]

Yeah, looks like a busted draw, i like a much smaller Vbet

[Genitruc]

guess i m just taking it a little 2 far

i really couldn't put villain on a hand except something like J8 and thought that pushing would look bluffy

betting like 40 is so fking obvious...

[gabe]

bet 70

[zook]

I just check, I don't see what you're getting value from here that raises utg and doesn't c-bet this flop.

[silu73]

Maybe I'm too nitty but I would just check the the river.

[Genitruc]

when I can't think of a hand villain has that beats mine I bet

vs ppl who seem like they might give themselves a good reason to call (i.e. super laggy villain raising a ton of hands who plays his hand passively postflop inviting me to bluff) I like to dare them to make big calls.

btw if I bet for value can I fold to a CR shove?