3-way monster gang-bang - hero w/ QQ

[Robb]

NL10. No real read on either villain. I went from thinking I was way ahead (flop) to almost certain I was behind (turn). Tell me how you would have bet this one.

To help critique my flop bet, I was hoping to keep both villains in the hand and then pray for any non-spade. So it half worked

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($5.49)
UTG 1 ($14.31)
CO ($8.97)
Hero ($10.31)
SB ($10.62)
BB ($17.84)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $0.1, UTG 1 calls $0.1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, 1 fold, BB calls $0.4, UTG folds, UTG 1 calls $0.4

Flop: ($1.65, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG 1 bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $1, UTG 1 calls $0.5

Turn: ($4.65, 3 players)
BB bets $4.65, UTG 1 calls $4.65, Hero ($4.65)?

[kmind]

Raising flop makes it so much easier to stack off on turn. I also raise more pre as well. As played I guess push and hope you are ahead/make a FH or quads.

[pankfish]

Gotta raise harder on flop. Raise to 2 dollars.

[Robb]

I also raise more pre as well.

How much pre? Two limpers plus blinds, so I put in 3 BB + a BB for each limper.

[daven]

pre-flop is fine.
BUT then you flopped top set, and min-raised on a suited board?!? re-raise to like $2.3 or something

[TLR]

You have implied odds to call

[kmind]

I also raise more pre as well.

How much pre? Two limpers plus blinds, so I put in 3 BB + a BB for each limper.

Preflop is fine as daven said but I really think you can raise just a tad more to get more value. I think you can do like 5 BB + a BB...nothing huge but over the long run adds up.

[Robb]

You have implied odds to call

On the turn, I was sick, thinking of how stooooopid that min-raise was. But yes, I had the implied odds. So, I called. River was a 3, pairing the board. So I hit my boat against Js 9s and AQ (Q was spades, for TPTK w/ a flush re-draw for the win over J9s). $30 hand.

So after thanking the poker gods for not kicking me in the groin for my stupidity, I thought I'd post the hand and get commentary. If I re-raise $2 on the flop, J9s drops out, not having odds to chase (and hit!). I guess it's a coin toss if AQ dumps his hand, too.

But the good news with the correctly-sized flop bet is that, worst case, I'm way ahead of one opponent instead of barely in it on implied odds for a half-stack bet.

Finally, thanks for the input. I feel that hands where I pull stupid stunts and lose a stack teach their lessons pretty well. When I make a mistake in a hand and win big, I want to analyze it and figure out what I could have done better.

[Ash256]

You have implied odds to call

If I re-raise $2 on the flop, J9s drops out, not having odds to chase (and hit!).

LOL are you serious!? Are the games so bad these days that 10NL players dump flushdraws if they aren't getting the right pot odds?!

[Robb]

You have implied odds to call

If I re-raise $2 on the flop, J9s drops out, not having odds to chase (and hit!).

LOL are you serious!? Are the games so bad these days that 10NL players dump flushdraws if they aren't getting the right pot odds?!

Good point. I might still have won the $30, but it would have been a very different plot line, with the VILLAIN drawing to nasty odds.

LoL - the games are definitely not that bad. The flush chasers will fold to a couple of pot-sized bets, but not much else, imo.

[kmind]

Giving them bad odds and them folding > giving them good odds to keep them in