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    Default Value Overbet?

    Opp is a good 1/2 winner.
    Ive been active, probably as high as 30/20 over about an hour (lots of hands+ playing good(for once)
    I think he calls with a all his range he bet the turn with right because i have a fd...

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($448.95)
    MP2 ($418.10)
    MP3 ($123.60)
    CO ($203.45)
    Button ($138.30)
    SB ($197.70)
    Hero ($200)
    UTG ($196.75)
    UTG+1 ($287.80)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, Q.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP3 calls $2, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: ($10) 4, 7, J (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $8, MP3 folds, SB calls $8, Hero calls $8, UTG+1 folds.

    Turn: ($34) 6 (3 players)
    SB bets $29, Hero calls $29, MP1 folds.

    River: ($92) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero shoves
    (sb has $160 behind, pot is now $240)
  2. #2
    No like. He doesn't even wanna call with a 3.
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    I think with 2pair he is only calling a max of $50 here.
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    this line always screams missed flush turned straight... honestly
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    more info on opp please - need to put him on a range.
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    villains range is not THAT important considering what cards are on this board.
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    just throw out like 38 bucks

    also bet flop

    also fold turn mostly, unless you reaaly feel like you have good IO here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItDrew
    villains range is not THAT important considering what cards are on this board.
    I couldn't agree less!

    OP is asking whether he should push the river with a non-nut hand. First thing I want to know is what is the likelihood that opp has the nuts!

    A8 spades is a possible hand here so before considering a shove I am thinking:
    1. Does he complete SB with AXs.
    2. Does he bet turn with combo draw?
    3. Is he capable of anticipating we will bet when checked to and going for a river check-raise with the nut hand?

    His turn bet only really fits a narrow range of hands (assuming he is a good player) - so with a bit more specific info we can work out where we stand here and what the best play is.
    tbh I am having a hard time believeing he would call a shove with 2 pair and finding it difficult to put him on a set given how the hand played out (hence need for info on opp) so can't see what he calls a big bet with here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    just throw out like 38 bucks

    also bet flop

    also fold turn mostly, unless you reaaly feel like you have good IO here.
    i felt i could bluff any 4 card straight falling plus obviously getting value on a flush, only reason i didnt fold turn.

    Ive been fed up of betting and getting raised from out of the blinds so ive played much differently out of the blinds recently.

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