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  1. #1

    Default KK in tough spot

    villain was unknown(8/6.7 around 75 hands) and didnt do anything out of line at this table. Fold, call/reevaluate or just shove over?
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    UTG ($200)
    MP ($478)
    CO ($206.50)
    Button ($144)
    Hero ($258)
    BB ($227.40)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
    UTG calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $8, UTG calls $8, CO calls $8.

    Flop: ($40) T, 8, 3 (4 players)
    Hero bets $35, BB raises to $80, UTG folds, CO folds, Hero ?
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    You have three options:

    1) call. check push turn
    2) fold
    3) raise

    I think I would follow this order. Raising is the worst Idea because you're not going to get more value out of a raise against a player making a move, and you have no reads to suggest villain is making a move here. If you are up against a better hand, it adds another reason not to raise.

    I put folding as 2nd option because I don't see myself folding KK here most of the time.
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    I would snap fold because you are 50/50 at best. Without the information that he is a complete donk, and the # of people behind him, make me fold.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    calling and open shoving blanks is so much better than check shove omg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    I would snap fold because you are 50/50 at best. Without the information that he is a complete donk, and the # of people behind him, make me fold.
    i agree with this. i dont know if i could bring myself to do it, but yeah.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    i think you should fold though
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  7. #7
    All this fold advice makes me very scared of 200NL. This is insta-push for me at 25NL....even vs a 8/6.7
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    this made me think a lot about moving down to 100 NL. Indeed scary when in doubt.
    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    All this fold advice makes me very scared of 200NL. This is insta-push for me at 25NL....even vs a 8/6.7
  9. #9
    if i call his raise, i already put over 1/3 of my starting stack in the pot and past commitment threshold. After thinking this way, shoving right away might be a little better than call/reevaluate. As played, i chose to fold my KK coz his line looked pretty strong in multi-way pot.

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