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  1. #1

    Default Awkward Spot nl400

    Preflop is often a 3-bet but against this stack I felt I was getting shoved on quite a bit by a flip or bigger pair and I’m really trying to cut down on variance as much as I can for a little while (a discussion in itself).

    Also I don’t really know much about villain but based on his stack size, def not a reg…

    No stats yet.

    I’m curious about what ppl think about every street. I think flop CR is pretty standard but the turn is a really interesting spot. Villain took a LONG time to call the turn.

    How about turning my hand into a bluff and shoving river?

    $400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, January 25, 13:49:29 ET 2008
    Table Table 133995 (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: DAWNC7 ( $104.54 USD )
    Seat 2: kalino ( $229.10 USD )
    Seat 3: terror_ist ( $275.80 USD )
    Seat 5: wakajawaka1 ( $402 USD )
    Seat 6: VILLAIN ( $284.91 USD )
    Seat 4: HERO ( $396 USD )
    terror_ist posts small blind [$2 USD].
    HERO posts big blind [$4 USD].
    DAWNC7 is sitting out
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to HERO
    wakajawaka1 folds.
    VILLAIN raises [$12 USD]
    kalino folds.
    terror_ist folds.
    HERO calls [$8 USD]

    ** Dealing Flop ** ( 25$)

    HERO checks.
    VILLAIN bets [$12 USD]
    HERO raises [$37 USD]
    VILLAIN calls [$25 USD]

    ** Dealing Turn ** (78$)

    HERO bets [$55 USD]
    VILLAIN calls [$55 USD]

    ** Dealing River ** (187$... villain has just under potsize left in stack)

    HERO checks
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  2. #2
    not sure i like the turn, but i dont hate it either. i dont like bluffing river though doesnt seem like he will be giving up too often if he called turn even though he might have been thinking about folding it.
  3. #3
    preflop is fine, bet a little biggre on turn 60-65 and shutdown on river/shove river is read dependant, my standard here is to expect them NOT to fold an overpair so i shutdown 80% of the itme
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  4. #4
    fwiw I think the size of my turn bet overreps my hand
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    fwiw I think the size of my turn bet overreps my hand
    also ur flop cr.

    i mix it up between leading this flop and checkcalling and only cring if i have incredibly good control of him postflop
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  6. #6
    The time after you say good-bye to someone on the street but then realize you're both going in the same direction and so you both try to go faster/slower than the other guy.. that's an awkward spot too.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    flop is a bluff, turn is a bluff, river as played i would bluff 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    flop is a bluff, turn is a bluff, river as played i would bluff 100%
    i ve never been a big fan of "raising for protection" but how often is a big hand of his betting less than 1/2 pot on that flop on a very scary board vs a blind-defending hand?

    I have no reason to let him get there with KJ or whatever for free, and judging by the size of his c-bet and his stack size, he's not a terribly strong player so I'd doubt I'm picking up a lot of cash by calling 2 or 3 barrels.

    This seems like a pretty easy spot to c/r a marginal hand OOP. Not c/r just lets him get there with diamonds ( a little unlikely based on size of his bet) and overs.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    leading flop seems a good line to me
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    The thing is he probably has some sort of draw, not random overcards, when he bets that amount on the flop, and I'd expect absolutely any draw to show a profit in position vs your 99 after this flop action.
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    hmmm i m surprised the flop play elicited more replies than the turn

    glad I posted the hand

    thx for replies ppl

    villain called turn and checked down on the riv and i was amazed that I had luckboxed my way into max value

    one thing about this hand is it seems to me my line looks more like a draw than villain's...
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    wow nh, i make bad read

    btw its not like i hate the flop play because it definitely has its merits and i do it sometimes but whenever i think about hands like this i feel like its not the best choice vs a decent player.
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    nah don t think u made bad read

    how the fk can he have the hand he had anyways...

    I think I was folding to a turn raise

    which would have sucked
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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