What situation were you in when you fold your AA and KK?

[briliantpeble]

aa kk

[Fnord]

When I'm pretty sure I'm beat.

[nutsinho]

unimproved on river in omaha

[Ash256]

When I'm pretty sure I'm beat after the flop.

EYP

[Pythonic]

Something like this:

Flop is heart heart heart and I have no heart and dude is betting or reraising big.

Or flop is (KK10) and you have AA

[kmind]

i will never forget that cold, rainy night i finally folded my AA on the river

[pankfish]

I fold my KK when the ace shows up. I fold my Aces almost never, I need to work on that.

[nutsinho]

in holdem one time i folded red aces when the board was JJT98 with 4 spades. should i have folded or not my opponent was pretty aggressive???

[Fnord]

I fold my Aces almost never, I need to work on that.

The problem isn't that you're failing to fold aces. The problem probably is you're either not very good at hand reading and/or bet sizing.

[BankItDrew]

Here's the sixth time I've done this:

3/6 went to showdown, all 3 had AA.

POKERSTARS GAME #14754117340: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/01/22 - 21:08:58 (ET)
Table 'Nashira' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: DSM30 ($238.95 in chips)
Seat 2: RNGMyAss ($124.40 in chips)
Seat 3: JaRoJr ($238.60 in chips)
Seat 4: BankItDrew ($344.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Lila mae ($66.35 in chips)
Seat 6: TosseM ($203 in chips)
Seat 7: ACB KGB ($265 in chips)
Seat 8: gmiko ($216.90 in chips)
Seat 9: fakker11 ($248 in chips)
Lila mae: posts small blind $1
TosseM: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BankItDrew [Ks Kd]
ACB KGB: folds
gmiko: folds
fakker11: folds
DSM30: calls $2
RNGMyAss: folds
JaRoJr: folds
BankItDrew: raises $8 to $10
Lila mae: folds
TosseM: folds
DSM30: raises $8 to $18
BankItDrew: raises $20 to $38
DSM30: raises $70 to $108
BankItDrew: folds
DSM30 collected $79 from pot
DSM30: doesn't show hand

[mixchange]

shockingly its right to fold kk pf sometimes

[Chopper]

OP looks spammy to me.

[bigslikk]

Hmm... a six-bet preflop, with min-raises galore and a sizeable bet on the end?

Yeah I"d fold.

[Seasider]

Not many will be folding this weekend on party, sets stock just went up...

http://www.partypoker.com/news/items/pocket-aces.html

[Fnord]

POKERSTARS GAME #13642994276: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/12/04 - 08:41:47 (ET)
Table 'Sidonia III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Fnord ($147.85 in chips)
Seat 3: smartinaz ($125.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Berbatov07 ($99.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Wyse ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: Bamibal1 ($183.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Duec3s ($185.50 in chips)
Seat 8: winger4130 ($72.25 in chips)
Seat 9: terji ($299.90 in chips)
winger4130: posts small blind $1
terji: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fnord [Kc Ks]
Fnord: raises $5 to $7
smartinaz: folds
Berbatov07: folds
Wyse: calls $7
Bamibal1: folds
Duec3s: raises $178.50 to $185.50 and is all-in
winger4130: folds
terji: folds
Fnord: folds
Wyse: folds
Duec3s collected $24 from pot
Duec3s: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Fnord folded before Flop
Seat 3: smartinaz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Berbatov07 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Wyse folded before Flop
Seat 6: Bamibal1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Duec3s (button) collected ($24)
Seat 8: winger4130 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: terji (big blind) folded before Flop

POKERSTARS GAME #6068030371: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/08/27 - 06:52:46 (ET)
Table 'Lesya' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Rendez ($40.50 in chips)
Seat 2: sfinxen ($133.60 in chips)
Seat 3: AlleghenyBob ($141.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Mrs21 ($69.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Bunkyconnor ($70.85 in chips)
Seat 6: HenryFnord ($296.95 in chips)
Rendez: posts small blind $0.50
sfinxen: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HenryFnord [Ks Kh]
AlleghenyBob: raises $3 to $4
Mrs21: folds
Bunkyconnor: folds
HenryFnord: raises $6 to $10
Rendez: folds
sfinxen: folds
AlleghenyBob: raises $15 to $25
HenryFnord: calls $15
*** FLOP *** [Jd 7h 5d]
AlleghenyBob: checks
HenryFnord: bets $30
AlleghenyBob: raises $86.65 to $116.65 and is all-in
HenryFnord: folds
AlleghenyBob collected $108.50 from pot
AlleghenyBob: shows [Ah Ac] (a pair of Aces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $111.50 | Rake $3
Board [Jd 7h 5d]
Seat 1: Rendez (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: sfinxen (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: AlleghenyBob collected ($108.50)
Seat 4: Mrs21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Bunkyconnor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: HenryFnord (button) folded on the Flop

[pantherhound]

fnord do you lagg it up in that game? is it still as unbearably nitty as i remember it?

[eugmac]

This wouldn't be the spot to fold KK right?

Opp is a 22/3 regular, and i've never seen him do this before. So, I did get a feeling, with such a narrow PFR that he might not do this with JJ/QQ so often.

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 56254141 *****
NL $25 No Limit Holdem - *** 01 28 13:15:13 2008
Table Angel Faces (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: Mogens99 ( $9.18 )
Seat 1: impede ( $22.05 )
Seat 2: TedKGB9 ( $44.94 )
Seat 3: witten15 ( $39.16 )
Seat 4: VOLUPTAS ( $5.14 )
Seat 5: Poland11 ( $17.03 )
Seat 6: jimbabis ( $33.04 ) (sitout)
Seat 7: Mendrog ( $37.21 )
Seat 8: eugnak ( $28 )
Seat 9: EduliN ( $25 )
TedKGB9 posts small blind [$0.12].
witten15 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to eugnak [ Kd Kc ]
VOLUPTAS calls [$0.25].
Poland11 folds.
Mendrog folds.
eugnak raises [$1.25].
EduliN folds.
Mogens99 folds.
impede folds.
TedKGB9 goes All-in [$44.82].
witten15 folds.
VOLUPTAS folds.
eugnak goes All-in [$26.75].

[BankItDrew]

That's not a spot I fold KK ^^^^^^^^^^^

[jmontis]

that's tough, but you're reasoning sounds a bit weird. If you thought he wouldn't do that with <=QQ, that means you're calling over 10x the pot to split, or take 20/80 with KK vs AA. Fold

of course, if your range for his play is wrong, then that's another thing

[eugmac]

that's tough, but you're reasoning sounds a bit weird. If you thought he wouldn't do that with <=QQ, that means you're calling over 10x the pot to split, or take 20/80 with KK vs AA. Fold

of course, if your range for his play is wrong, then that's another thing

lol. No, I had the reasoning, and the feeling, that I might be wrong to call, but after being indoctrinated with "NEVER FOLD KK PF" I just mashed the call button and was shown AA.

[Halv]

Anyone being results oriented in this thread or what?

[will641]

Fnord, in hand 1 you posted, isnt this a fist pump call? i mean he open shoved over your raise!!! you have the second best hand.

[Wallhallen]

KK I fold pretty often( when A comes) but aces get me in some trouble sometime when flop looks like 7 3 J and someone floped set!

[Fnord]

Fnord, in hand 1 you posted, isnt this a fist pump call? i mean he open shoved over your raise!!! you have the second best hand.

Not when it's someone playing 8 tables with an under 6% VP$IP who really left me with a nit impression. I raise EP (I didn't think my image was that far out of line and certainly positional) and a donk called. What is a thinking playing going to be shoving there other than AA figuring to get a fast stack if I'm KK/QQish

[Jack Sawyer]

Its sng, but even so..


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB (t3040)
Hero (t4845)
Button (t1330)
SB (t4285)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero calls t200, 1 fold, SB raises to t750, BB raises to t3015, Hero folds, SB calls t2265.

Flop: (t6280) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t6280) (2 players)

River: (t6280) (2 players)

Final Pot: t6280

Results in white below:
BB has As Ad (one pair, aces).
SB has Ts Tc (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: SB wins t6280.

[eugmac]

Its sng, but even so..


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB (t3040)
Hero (t4845)
Button (t1330)
SB (t4285)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero calls t200, 1 fold, SB raises to t750, BB raises to t3015, Hero folds, SB calls t2265.

Flop: (t6280) , , (2 players)

Turn: (t6280) (2 players)

River: (t6280) (2 players)

Final Pot: t6280

Results in white below:
BB has As Ad (one pair, aces).
SB has Ts Tc (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: SB wins t6280.

Please explain this fold without being results-oriented.

[givememyleg]

Jack, snap call.

[drmcboy]

Its A MISCLICK, but even so..

FYP

[Jack Sawyer]

I read souls, obv.


Can't remember the details, it was a long time ago. I was browsing through one of my old blog posts on here and I found this gem
I probably wanted to tarp, but then [insert memory lapse here]

[ProZachNation]

kk twice preflop once I didn't get back to the table in time, and the other was kk twice in a row and I folded it(did not see I folded it till looking through ptracker later so I dunno I must have thought something weird)

[lean86]

I folded AA just once, heads-up, after getting raised pre-flop, i re-raised and he called. The flop came J-5-2, i made a small bet to force him to call, he re-raised me, i re-raised him and he moved all in. Then after some thinking, considering his raise pre-flop i folded. He won the pot and showed J-J. Felt good!

[hbk007]

When I was at a tight table and limped KK in mid position?, hoping to spring a reraise on someone's small pair/ Ace high. Flop came rags, but someone in the blind really liked their hand, so I'm usually gone if anyone in the blinds is giving me heat or slowplaying trips.