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    Default EP Flop Aggressor Against LP PF caller

    Assume 100bb stacks.

    Folds to us in UTG+1 and we open to 4xbb. Folds to 15/12 CO with 55% fold to cbet who calls. The blinds fold.

    The pot is 9.5bb and the flop comes K 9 7.

    1. What is our range?
    2. What part of our range do we check/fold?
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    I'm going to have a go at this!

    1. 66+, AK, AJs+ and sometimes Axs or JTs+
    2. 66, AJ/AQ (no two spades)
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    1. 22+, AQ+, AJs+
    2. On this flop, with me being the EP aggressor, I almost never c/f & c-bet almost always...
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    1. 55+ AJs+ occasionally 22-44/SCs
    2. Nothing I'm cbetting this flop 100% against almost everybody
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    1. 88+, AQo+, AJs
    2. Fold 88, TT-QQ if he bets strong, raise and stackoff with AK+, AsJs, AsQs, and bluffraise AJo, AQo some of the time.

    But against this type of player, it's probably better to just c-bet for 3/4 pot, he folds often and we can represent credibly (King) without much risk of being ISF-theory-owned.
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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    Id bet any pair, any two high cards with a spade, and anything that hit the flop.
    Fwiw, i dont raise 44/33/22 from here so c-betting those is irrelevant.
    I fire a lot of second barrels on this board too.
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    1. 22+, AQ+, AJs+, KQs (am I the only one who plays KQs here?)
    2. I would normally want to cbet a lot here, but let's think about it.

    Flop hits villain's range pretty well (he's not unlikely to have a hand with a K). I've used a default 7% PokerStove range as my basis with the lower pocket pairs added in for a total of 9.2%. This may be wide, but his position isn't half bad.
    If villain calls a cbet I put him on: 99+,77,AKs,AsQs,AsJs,AsTs,KTs+,AKo
    This is a 5.4% range, which doesn't chime exactly with a 55% fold to cbet stat, but I think it is correct with the consideration that I have AK, KQs, KJs and KTs in his range and they hit the flop.

    Of these 5.4%, 5.3% beat a low pocket pair. There are almost no hands in his cbet calling range that are not pairs. This would lend credence to check/folding our 22-66+88, as well as AQo and AJs and AQs when not spades - as we would be behind if we cbet them and get called.
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    AQ+, AJs+, 22+, sometimes SC76+
    I see no reason to check/fold anything, this is a good enough board to cbet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    1. 22+, AQ+, AJs+
    2. On this flop, with me being the EP aggressor, I almost never c/f & c-bet almost always...
    +1

    His 55% folds to cbet is perfect - he's pretty honest on the flop, if I have 200+ HH's on these stats. I'm firing a cbet with everything in my range. If I'm beat, he'll let me know.
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    1.) 66+, ATs+, AJo+, JTs+ and random sc´s occassionally

    2.) I cbet near 100% in EP
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    Vrax, the "it's poker not solitaire" quote in your signature is by Doyle Brunson. Opponent is Patrick Antonius. YouTube vid is linked here:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=nEVbzWbYQ-Q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb
    Vrax, the "it's poker not solitaire" quote in your signature is by Doyle Brunson. Opponent is Patrick Antonius. YouTube vid is linked here:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=nEVbzWbYQ-Q
    Yeah, I remember, 33 vs A2 preflop.

    Origin of "Gus Bronson" is here:

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...hlight=bronson
    "How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrax
    Quote Originally Posted by Robb
    Vrax, the "it's poker not solitaire" quote in your signature is by Doyle Brunson. Opponent is Patrick Antonius. YouTube vid is linked here:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=nEVbzWbYQ-Q
    Yeah, I remember, 33 vs A2 preflop.

    Origin of "Gus Bronson" is here:

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...hlight=bronson
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    Default Re: EP Flop Aggressor Against LP PF caller

    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Assume 100bb stacks.

    Folds to us in UTG+1 and we open to 4xbb. Folds to 15/12 CO with 55% fold to cbet who calls. The blinds fold.

    The pot is 9.5bb and the flop comes K 9 7.

    1. What is our range?
    2. What part of our range do we check/fold?
    55% fold to c-bet so we can assume he floats a fair bit?

    1. AQs+, 88+
    2. I'm rarely check folding and probably two barrelling any non-spade.

    ?wut

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