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    Default 200NL - TPTK & NFD in 3bet pot

    Villian runs 19/10/1.3 with an A2S of 26%. He very rarely folds his LP raises to 3bets from the blinds.

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($40.00)
    UTG 1 ($203.00)
    MP1 ($230.90)
    MP2 ($43.35)
    MP3 ($42.00)
    CO ($251.50)
    BTN ($192.90)
    Hero ($338.07)
    BB ($72.60)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB
    5 folds, CO raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, 1 fold, CO calls $18

    Flop: ($52, 2 players)
    Hero bets $38, CO raises to $80
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    dont fold.

    i tend to shove here but calling and c/bomb turn is fine too
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  3. #3
    Shove ain't no other way to play it imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    dont fold.

    i tend to shove here but calling and c/bomb turn is fine too
  5. #5
    shove shove shove and ship it
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Shove ain't no other way to play it imo
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    3bet to 170 and call his allin
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    Shove.

    It goes better with the other hands in my range.
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    Degree all-in moment.
  10. #10
    isnt calling better then shoving here?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Dislexsik
    isnt calling better then shoving here?
    no, have a hell of a lot of equity here, we lose a lot of equity against his range on a blank turn so we need to get it in when we're ahead/ have odds to do so. Calling and c/f turn is bad, calling and having a club come on the turn is bad.
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  12. #12
    yeah we have more fold equity but do we don't really want him to fold...And if we push we make alot of worse hands fold.
    What range are u putting him on btw if u think that we have less equity against it on the turn?
  13. #13
    ok so I'm now confused.

    the only things that may fold are worse Ks and worse FDs and total air, which we want to keep in the pot. However I'm not sure that we have a lot of FE as we are semi-bluffing here a lot and it's kind of obvious. Also, as I said, I think we lose a lot of value when a club comes on the turn. I honestly don't think villain is raise/folding this flop very often...

    I believe we lose a lot of equity to sets/ AK which we're freerolling/ AA / made flushes on a missed turn and they make up a large amount of his range.
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    I think his range deffenatly will be TT-QQ, with or without a club, and i think they will be more inclinded to fold to a shove.
    U can say for example if we didnt have tp but just the NFD and 2 overcards, then im more inclined to shove, but in this case we dont have to protect ourself for anything, only thing we do is give us better equity if we are against a set, but there is noway we ever lay down our hand.

    If a club would come, i dont see him folding it anymore with this money in the pot.He will even go with it if he has like QcQx or JcJx

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