Two 50NL hands

[JinxT4]

Only note on villain is a hand that he played vs me earlier @ another table (he 3bet my button raise from the BB with A5, then we checked down & my 88 was good).

Earlier hand:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($100.25)
SB ($50)
BB ($72.80)
UTG ($99.70)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($11.25)
MP2 ($49.70)
CO ($59.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8.
5 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.25) J, Q, 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12.25) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($12.25) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $12.25
Results:
BB has Ac 5s (high card, ace).
Hero has 8s 8d (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $12.25.


Now the 1 I've got questions on (same villain as above):
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($50)
CO ($53.85)
Button ($44.25)
SB ($80.60)
BB ($8.50)
UTG ($55.60)
UTG+1 ($64.40)
MP1 ($157.10)
MP2 ($91.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K.
4 folds, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: ($6.75) K, 7, 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $5.5, CO calls $5.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($17.75) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($17.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, CO raises to $46.35, Hero sighs

My thought process is that a normal player calls the flop with fds, sets, & 2pair hands. Fwiw, I'm running kinda bad after moving up to 50NL, so I'm questioning whether I'm making good or bad decisions. Puke fold? Easy fold? Puke call?


One more quick (?) hand (unknown villain):
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($49.25)
SB ($99.35)
BB ($50)
UTG ($48)
UTG+1 ($54.30)
MP1 ($49.50)
Hero ($54.35)
MP3 ($78.40)
CO ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($12.75) 5, J, 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $48.3 (All-In), Hero calls $48.30.

I'm not sure what to make of the fishy minraise then min4bet, then open shove flop. Is this an easy call vs an unknown (he can have AK & be pushing to try to push me off a better hand, right?)? Or am I dominated here 99% of the time? 50NL plays weird.

[cardsman1992]

I think you have to fold the river in hand 1. He is not likely raising with anything you beat. You have to be good here 46% of the time to make this call if my math is right.

That is a fishy line, but I think you are beat here. I think he has JJ+, or a nut FD. You don't win what amounts to a flip against that range either.

[JinxT4]

Also, in the KK hand, villain (skat tilt) is supposedly a decent 50NL player, according to 2p2. Does that make an easier snapfold (or call maybe if I think he thinks he can take the pot away or is trying get thin value of a set he thinks is good)?

[pokerfan]

hand 1: c/c on the river vs good aggressive players. YOU could also bet on the turn. As played, fold to his big shove.
hand 2: fold

[PapalRage]

hand 1: c/c on the river vs good aggressive players. YOU could also bet on the turn. As played, fold to his big shove.
hand 2: fold

this.

[cardsman1992]

Bet/fold to a shove in hand 1 is a good line IMO....checking turn is only good if you think he would bluff the river when checking to him. However, you lose a lot of value that way and is pretty much FPS.

[Fnord]

Also, in the KK hand, villain (skat tilt) is supposedly a decent 50NL player, according to 2p2.

BET $15 ON THE TURN AND NEVER NEVER NEVER EVEN THINK OF FOLDING.

Checking the turn is setting money on fire.

[badgers]

hmmmmm.

I can't think of a single hand skat tilt could have that beats you in the KK hand. I'm pretty sure he's betting the turn w/ a flush. wieeerd spot, he looks a lot like 88 or 45 or he's turning a hand like JJ into a bluff. I would call.

def bet the turn tho but as played i think we have to bet this river.

[JinxT4]

hmmmmm.

I can't think of a single hand skat tilt could have that beats you in the KK hand. I'm pretty sure he's betting the turn w/ a flush. wieeerd spot, he looks a lot like 88 or 45 or he's turning a hand like JJ into a bluff. I would call.

def bet the turn tho but as played i think we have to bet this river.

That's what I was thinking, so I called expecting to see (in order of likelihood) 77/66 or a flush (which I figured he'd bet on the turn). If it was vs a complete unknown, I think I might've been more inclined to fold.

Hand 1:
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CO: shows [3d 7d] (a pair of Sevens)
Hero: shows [Kc Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero collected $99.75 from pot

Hand 2:
*** TURN *** [5h Js 6s] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [5h Js 6s 5s] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
UTG+1: shows [6c Ah] (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
Hero: shows [Qs Qc] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
Hero collected $106.35 from pot

Hand 2 his line just seemed so fishy, & idk if this is normally a monster @ 50NL but it looked so much like AK to me that I couldn't see folding.