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 Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
I figured I could bluff pretty much any spade or Q/J, sometimes 8. I haven't shown down any thin v raises.
I like the river shove once he bets $94, but I'm not sure if I like the plan, for a couple of reasons:
1. You can't make a big c/r if he bets big on the river. You have $350 left and the pot is $172. Here his small bet made this move possible.
2. You obviously can't lead the river as a bluff if you put him on two pair.
3. His turn raise is fairly large, wich gives you worse odds.
4. Does he always value bet 95/75 on a scary river?
5. The value of your gutshot is only about 4/44*($155+$172) = $30, if we assume that you would lead $155 on the river when you hit and pretty much always get called by his two pair (I think a c/r would show about the same profit or slightly less).
We could do some math too since this hand is interesting:
Let's assume he will: b/f scarecards 50%, b/c scarecards 25%, check behind scarecards 25%. Let's also assume that if he decides to bet, he will make it $100.
So we get: EV = EV(b/f) - EV(b/c) - EV(check) - EV(no scarecard or gutshot) + EV(gutshot) = 20/44 * ($272) * 50% - 20/44 * ($402) * 25% - 20/44* $52 * 25% - 20/44* $52 + 4/44*($327) = $62 - $45 - $6 - $23+ $30 = $18
If I did the math correctly and my assumptions are close, then this seems to be -EV since you are paying $52 for an EV of $18. This is mostly caused by the risk of a b/c combined with the risk of no scarecard coming.
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