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  1. #1

    Default Should I be considering a fold..?

    Villain is a pretty nitty 11/10/3 and has played zero all in pots in the 65 prior hands I have with him. Comments welcome on all streets but I'm mainly interested in the river.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($80.10)
    Hero ($50)
    UTG ($117.90)
    MP ($17.50)
    Button ($69.10)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with :Ac: .
    1 fold, MP raises to $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50.

    Flop: ($4) :Ah: (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

    Turn: ($4) (4 players)
    SB bets $3, Hero calls $3, MP folds, Button folds.

    River: ($10) :As: (2 players)
    SB bets $76.1 (All-In), Hero...

    Final Pot: $10
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    himself fucker.
    Just a cooler.

    Even if he leads, you're raising and he 3 bets ai if he has you beat. No way you're not getting all your loose change in this pot.
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    I'd never fold this, because he can be value shoving soooo many worse hands.

    It really doesn't look like you have a boat (as he'd expect you to raise two pairs/sets earlier), so this can be a value shove from 6's full, or 7's full or somehow a backdoor flush or something.
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    he flatted out of sb. Id expect him to have 66/77 5 times as often as A6/A7 based on that alone, plus card w/ removal I'd say you're good 90% of the time. Each of those hands makes this play to get value from your obv backdoor flush cause u would bet or raise somewhere if u had aces full now obv!! fistpump call
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    definitely agree this is a fistpump call as he can have worse boats a ton of the time i.e. 66,77, as well as backdoor flushes.
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    I don't know about backdoor flushes - making that kind of huge overbet without a boat on that board is a kind of stupid that doesn't resemble his stats. But I do agree with him having sets that turned into boats - those should be most of his hands.

    Sadly for me, not this time.
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    This is a pretty routine re-raise for me pre-flop.
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    This is a pretty routine re-raise for me pre-flop.
    Pre-flop?

    Uhh, the turn?

    I'd always raise the turn here.

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    I'd love to hear thoughts on what that min-raise from EP means.

    I used to assume it was a donks version of value with a monster (slightly upgraded version of limping UTG), but I'm starting to lean towards a really weak hand instead. Seeing stuff like small PPs, SCs, weak Ax.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  10. #10
    For me it doesn't mean much.

    Nothing to do with his position; but the minimum bet size.

    Whatever he's got it's alreasy been topped up before OP's call. The pot size doesn't much effect odds (just makes the overall pot bigger). Here, I think, there are good odds for joining in the family pot fun.
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    that doesn't exactly look like a value bet. I don't see how you can fold a boat here ever.
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    id raise the turn here occaisionally. as played i agree with nuts that its 66/77 way more than a A6/A7. ez call with less than 100bbs.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.

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