Gambler2k4 pickin off a bluff?

[IowaSkinsFan]

G2k4 is a pretty passive reggy type player. Plays 23/18 calls cbets a lot and c/f's most of the time he misses. He will bluff and he tends to do it at pretty bad times imo. I mean pretty much I expect AA/KK to fourbet preflop most of the time, expect AQ to not 3 bet (although it could) and QQ/TT to flat since the deck is crippled. So what do i do? Fold? Raise? Call?

PokerStars Game #19350753811: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2008/08/04 - 10:36:05 (ET)
Table 'Marlu' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Bullitos ($1970 in chips)
Seat 2: Gullars85 ($2000 in chips)
Seat 3: djalminha ($3452 in chips)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 ($3384 in chips)
Seat 5: heybude ($3674 in chips)
Seat 6: nicelife ($1159.55 in chips)
nicelife: posts small blind $10
Bullitos: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heybude [8s 9c]
Gullars85: folds
djalminha: folds
gambler2k4: raises $40 to $60
heybude: raises $140 to $200
nicelife: folds
Bullitos: folds
gambler2k4: calls $140
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3c Qh]
gambler2k4: checks
heybude: bets $320
gambler2k4: raises $680 to $1000
heybude:

[Fnord]

Looks like a fold to me. Calling is close though.

[gabe]

wtf

[IowaSkinsFan]

wtf

So shoving or calling is real bad?

[Alexos]

wtf

[Alexos]

havnt played gambler2k4 but give description raising seems bad.. and calling seems bad too

[IowaSkinsFan]

K well now i thought about my line before. fold, call, raise are all options preflop. Check or bet are both viable on the flop. I guess it doesn't really make sense for me to bet 98 here and then shove it in because i bet the flop thinking he wouldn't raise me a lot and now im acting like he is raising me with a wide range.

Although kind of surprised people arent saying shoving is fine.

[Renton]

seems like an easy check on flop thats very likely to hit a flat oop range when we have 4 outs we'd love to hit. Betting can't be that bad though because I don't expect him to raise that often.

I think you need a couple more outs to shove here. If you want t fk with him i think i like a call better, but obv i think this is a fold.

[clarkatroid]

i dont see any other option than folding this flop unless u2 have some crazy dynamic going down

[sauce123]

shipping lets you get it in sooooooo bad

if u continue call and jam a blank river and try to rep a hand like JJ-AA or something

I think its very relevant that his raise makes the stacks fucking awful if he has any kind of a draw so expect him to float those often if hes thinking which he might not be

so he either has AQ+ or garbage here which is why we call cause our expectation is that a nitty TAG wont sling his stack in on the turn with 0 equity in a very big pot so if it goes check/we r set. you should also have some idea of how FPSy he is and if he is liable to check back a set on AQ on the turn cause hes insane: not to induce a river shove from 89o which is the only reason TO check back really

so fold or call u decide

[Renton]

wow me and sauce are like this

[gabe]

im confused by the recent hsnl thread on 2p2. who is what

[Numbr2intheWorld]

my guess 2k4 saw this post, remembered that Danny shoved and then showed his bluff when 2k4 folded, and wanted to know if hsnl 2p2ers thought it was bad.

here's the link to the 2p2 thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=287378

[lolzzz_321]

Transcript for game #19350753811 requested by Triptanes (NOTHANKS @ NOMAIL DOT COM)
*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #19350753811: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2008/08/04 - 10:36:05 (ET)
Table 'Marlu' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Bullitos ($1970 in chips)
Seat 2: Gullars85 ($2000 in chips)
Seat 3: djalminha ($3452 in chips)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 ($3384 in chips)
Seat 5: heybude ($3674 in chips)
Seat 6: nicelife ($1159.55 in chips)
nicelife: posts small blind $10
Bullitos: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Gullars85: folds
djalminha: folds
gambler2k4: raises $40 to $60
heybude: raises $140 to $200
nicelife: folds
Bullitos: folds
gambler2k4: calls $140
*** FLOP *** [Ts 3c Qh]
gambler2k4: checks
heybude: bets $320
gambler2k4: raises $680 to $1000
heybude: raises $2474 to $3474 and is all-in
gambler2k4: calls $2184 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($290) returned to heybude
*** TURN *** [Ts 3c Qh] [As]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 3c Qh As] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gambler2k4: shows [Kh Jh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
heybude: mucks hand
gambler2k4 collected $6795 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6798 | Rake $3
Board [Ts 3c Qh As 4d]
Seat 1: Bullitos (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Gullars85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: djalminha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 showed [Kh Jh] and won ($6795) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: heybude (button) mucked
Seat 6: nicelife (small blind) folded before Flop

[IowaSkinsFan]

Yeah he called with KJ and made me realize how dumb my shove was.