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  1. 10-09-2008 06:44 PM #1
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    Default whats your 3bet %

    just started looking at 3bet percentages and would like some idea of where other players are at

    im currently 5
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  2. 10-09-2008 07:00 PM #2
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    I'm around 4 atm, dropped a bit recently. I'm in the midst of rethinking my 3-bet bluff ranges both IP and OOP and atm have almost stopped 3-bet bluffing OOP while I do.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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  3. 10-09-2008 07:13 PM #3
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  4. 10-09-2008 07:28 PM #4
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    It's very game texture driven.
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  5. 10-09-2008 07:38 PM #5
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    how the hell can it be 4% Ben? That's like JJ+,AQ+
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  6. 10-09-2008 08:27 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    It's very game texture driven.
    Yah this.

    If there are people that call too many 3bets and stuff, then I'll probably be around 7.

    If people are folding a lot of 3bets, then I'm probably around 9-10.
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  7. 10-09-2008 08:42 PM #7
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  8. 10-09-2008 08:44 PM #8
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    This month I'm around 6. I think 8 is a solid number and overall I'm probably close to that.



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  9. 10-09-2008 09:04 PM #9
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    I flat with JJ & AQ a lot. Also until a little lightbulb went off in my head I didnt use to 3-bet much IP at all, which is kind of the opposite of how I should be playing.

    3-betting is definately a hole in my game, I just dont want to race in and overhaul it too quickly without thinking things through. People still seem to pay off my big hands and most players suck postflop so I feel more comfortable seeing flops cheaply than building bigger pots preflop. Something I need to get over.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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  10. 10-09-2008 09:15 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    I flat with JJ & AQ a lot. Also until a little lightbulb went off in my head I didnt use to 3-bet much IP at all, which is kind of the opposite of how I should be playing.

    3-betting is definately a hole in my game, I just dont want to race in and overhaul it too quickly without thinking things through. People still seem to pay off my big hands and most players suck postflop so I feel more comfortable seeing flops cheaply than building bigger pots preflop. Something I need to get over.
    I play like this sometimes as well. It really all depends on the players. If someone is calling too many 3-bets OOP then you should just 3-bet them for value with hands like AQ/AJ etc. If people aren't calling enough then 3betting with more junk is probably better and sometimes flatting with hands that actually have value.
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    Yeah, thats one spot where I understand the theory Griffey, but when it actually comes down to it I dont make those adjustments as much as I should.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    Yeah, thats one spot where I understand the theory Griffey, but when it actually comes down to it I dont make those adjustments as much as I should.
    +1
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    I'm at 5-6, but most of my opponents don't open a wide range and call 3bet's IP a lot. If I'm playing against more TAGs or LAGs I think I'd go up to 8-10.
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    mine varies too, on average it's 8.
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    winning a lot of small pots is more and more important now imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XTR1000
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    4-5 at fullring, higher at 6-max cos of being in the blinds more often...
    I 3bet more IP if you're implying 3betting in the blinds vs. stealers a lot.
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  23. 10-13-2008 03:08 AM #23
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    off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19?
    Not necessarily. But it's at least very uncommon, afaik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19?
    so this means you 4bet 1/5th of the time you get 3bet?

    If you 4bet TT+,AKs,AKo then this makes sense to me along with about 40 other combos of air.
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    ppl 3-bet LP opens like monkeys and don't 5-bet shove enough obv
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    i don't possess this stat but its definitely very high, probably over 10%
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19?
    so this means you 4bet 1/5th of the time you get 3bet?

    If you 4bet TT+,AKs,AKo then this makes sense to me along with about 40 other combos of air.
    Pretty sure he 4bets AQ too and some Axs and small pairs at times to get to 19%.

    edit: To call a shove, so not part of his air range..
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    mines like 9 although that says nothing about my ranges
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    Quote Originally Posted by zook
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    yeah i mean i 3-bet way more than that pussy zook for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
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    yeah i mean i 3-bet way more than that pussy zook for sure
    SRSLY DOUBT IT
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    at least 10 when i play 5/10 or lower. At high steaks i am more trixy with big hands and slightly more foldy with marginal hands so its a bit lower.
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