Regs Game?

[meeloche]

I remember a few months back there was a full ring game between the ftr folks.

Any interest in doing something similar in a 6 max form. Something in the 50nl-200nl range to get the most participation? We could get a couple of tables going if the numbers are there.

Anybody interested?

[baudib]

I'll donate.

[bode]

i'd be down for this tomorrow night. anything up to 200nl is coo wit me.

[AnTman_69]

im inttterested fosho...i wonder how quick you guys will tilt me. What site?

sounds decent, 25nl?

[XTR1000]

I´m down if we could find a euro-friendly time to do this

[Galapogos]

I´m down if we could find a euro-friendly time to do this

How about 5 o'clock?

[ZwiFT]

i should be down for this, name a time

[XTR1000]

I´m down if we could find a euro-friendly time to do this

How about 5 o'clock?

everything from 8 - 12pm gmt is cool for me

[jimmy44]

I would be up for this from 10pm to 2am CET. However, I only have the possibility of playing 3-4 days /week, so it would depend on the day you guys choose.
Anything from 50NL to 200NL.

[Parasurama]

I'll take baudib's money

[ATOTHEC101]

Im in if this is on fulltilt, and I second XTR's plee for european friendly times, anywhere up to 200nl is fine with me to.

[Galapogos]

I´m down if we could find a euro-friendly time to do this

How about 5 o'clock?

everything from 8 - 12pm gmt is cool for me

I was just making a dumb joke. I failed, or succeeded, however you look at it.

[baudib]

I'll take baudib's money

pffft...I've lost money to worse.

I'm in on FT or Starz up to $100 NL.

[ZwiFT]

I'll take baudib's money

pffft...I've lost money to worse.

I'm in on FT or Starz up to $100 NL.

Im in if ftp

[baudib]

I´m down if we could find a euro-friendly time to do this

How about 5 o'clock?

everything from 8 - 12pm gmt is cool for me

I was just making a dumb joke. I failed, or succeeded, however you look at it.

I got the joke and even lulzed a bit...but still 99% fail.

[meeloche]

I don't have a ft account anymore unfortunately so I'd be pushing for stars. I was thinking sunday afternoon for me/night for you eastern folks. So like 6 or 7 est?

I've added a poll so we'll c what we come up with.

[XTR1000]

est = gmt-6, right?

i have accounts on both sites, voted for stars but ft wouldnt be a problem for me. dont have a lot of money there, so 50nl would be cool

[baudib]

Can I vote for Friday or Saturday instead?

[bode]

i can do stars or FTP so i wont vote.

[meeloche]

There is an option for neither site or if Sunday doesn't work for you.

If you could post which way you voted so we know who we need to accommodate etc. That way the poll doesn't get screwed by randoms.

[ATOTHEC101]

I voted FTP as I don't have any money on stars.

[baudib]

I voted for FT; however, Sundays are iffy for me.

[AnTman_69]

i voted for stars 6 or 7est. But i dont know wat time that is in brisbane aust time.

[jo]

either site works for me, but its kinda early

[ZwiFT]

cant do stars =(

starrrrrs

[meeloche]

So it looks like stars is the winner.

Anybody who only play fulltilt see if someone with money on both sites can transfer you some money.

Next question is which limit. I would guess that 100nl or 50nl would be best to get the most people. I have adjusted the poll for that.

[Parasurama]

I voted for 50NL since it has to be on stars, anyone interested in giving me $50 on stars for $50 on FTP pm me.

[ZwiFT]

if someone can ship me 2-3 buyins on stars. ill ship 2-3 on ftp

[wellrounded08]

I just thought I'd throw out something that I've thought about in the past, and while it's unlikely it will happen any time soon, I think it's something that would be cool to get the ball rolling on. If places like FTR and 2p2 etc. could create password protected Cash tables. If this is an old Idea, then ur welcome to ignore me, but if not, maybe something FTR could look into, just thought I'd throw that Idea around to see wat u think.
And FWIW, I WOULD be down for a 50nl cash game cept thats what I play and it would likely be -ev for me to play w/ a bunch of better players imo.

[meeloche]

Yeah its a good idea for the future for sure.

So I guess 50nl it is. We'll get started around 7pm Eastern time. I'll post here when I get some tables together.

[Robb]

This is a great idea. Can't do it this time, but I would be interested in the future. Maybe a monthly game night, so we could plan in advance? It could rotate a bit to fit different schedules. Heck, maybe even a monthly game at both Tilt and stars? Very cool idea.

[baudib]

I only lost $2.60 so I view it as a win. if only I could hit the fold button.

[kmind]

I only lost $2.60 so I view it as a win. if only I could hit the fold button.

You sir give no respect to LP opens

[baudib]

lulz

I finally decided to three-bet meeloche in the BB and he came over the top when I had 62o.

[meeloche]

fyi

***** Hand History for Game 23812462427 *****
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 11, 05:27:42 ET 2009
Table Sapientia (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: meeloche ( $92.00 USD )
Seat 2: toddanderson ( $64.65 USD )
Seat 3: baudib ( $53.05 USD )
Seat 4: wesrman ( $92.40 USD )
Seat 5: ge00 ( $98.45 USD )
Seat 6: UglySpud ( $51.50 USD )
toddanderson posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
baudib posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to meeloche [ 9d 8h ]
wesrman folds
ge00 folds
UglySpud folds
meeloche raises [$1.50 USD]
toddanderson folds
baudib raises [$4.50 USD]
meeloche raises [$10.50 USD]
baudib folds
meeloche wins $10.25 USD from main pot
meeloche wins $7.00 USD from main pot

[baudib]

pwn3d

nh sir

[Galapogos]

I don't think I won a pot that went past preflop with anything greater than 8 high. I wish I could have stayed for more than 10 minutes, would have been cool to get some good levels going.

[baudib]

I played so bad on sapienta.

[kmind]

I played so bad on sapienta.

I only played on sapienta...so in MY eyes: you = BAD!

In all seriousness you aren't bad at all like you kept typing in the chat. But I literally stole the blinds once, whether on the button, CO or SB with you to my left. I did successfully 4bet bluff you twice though. I'd be careful

Thanks for setting this up even though I only had 1 buyin to start with.

[baudib]

These TT hands were totally butchered.

I don't know if b/f is the right play here or not or just fold the turn, but anyway, I forgot the fold part. Price was too good.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($84.55)
Hero (CO) ($74.00)
BTN ($70.55)
SB ($51.00)
BB ($49.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($7.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($16.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $20, Hero calls $12.50

Final Pot: $56.75
Hero shows:
BTN shows:

BTN wins $54.75 ( won +$26.75 )
Hero lost -$28

I knew I should probably 4-bet this one preflop and again I don't really beat anything.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($93.05)
UTG+1 ($50.75)
CO ($49.40)
BTN ($89.15)
SB ($49.50)
Hero (BB) ($45.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, 2 folds, SB raises to $7, Hero calls $6.50, UTG+1 calls $5

Flop: ($21, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12.50, SB says "wat", UTG+1 calls $12.50, SB folds

Turn: ($46, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 goes all-in $31.25, Hero goes all-in $25.75

River: ($103, 2 players)

Final Pot: $97.50
Hero shows:
UTG+1 shows:

UTG+1 wins $100 ( won +$49.25 )
SB lost -$7
Hero lost -$45.25

[ZwiFT]

kmind join lesya

23.5ptbb, pwned noobs

[nutsinho]

is this going down next week? i want to play!

[baudib]

But I literally stole the blinds once, whether on the button, CO or SB with you to my left. I did successfully 4bet bluff you twice though. I'd be careful

I kept getting into stupid spots with medium/smallish pairs and got no action on my big hands. I guess these are the spots you're talking about.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($104.20)
UTG+1 ($49.25)
CO ($92.75)
BTN ($48.75)
Hero (SB) ($53.00)
BB ($92.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BTN raises to $12, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($24.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN says "wat"

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($50.00)
Hero (UTG+1) ($48.75)
CO ($56.40)
BTN ($62.20)
SB ($48.75)
BB ($52.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
BTN says "XTR why dun u come to IRC much now?", 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.70, 2 folds, UTG says "ask wesr", SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.30

Flop: ($10.50, 2 players)
SB bets $7.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $10.50

SB wins $17.50 ( won +$5 )
Hero lost -$5

[nutsinho]

baudib,

some of those hands are played really bad. i dont know how seriously you are approaching the game of NLHE, but do you watch instructional videos or have you considered getting a coach?

[baudib]

Yeah I agree they were totally butchered. I'm open for anything. I'm actually doing OK against most passive fish at this level but I was so clearly the worst player among this group it wasn't even funny.

[AnTman_69]

My questionable hands. Plz comment. This is my first hand. Fold against meelocche?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO sankers ($50.00)
BTN Hero ($50.25)
BB meeloche ($50.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 3 players) Hero is BTN
sankers folds, Hero raises to $1.50, huh,reraise? folds, meeloche calls $1

Flop: ($3.25, 1 players)
meeloche checks, Hero bets $2, meeloche raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($16.25, 1 players)
meeloche checks, Hero checks

River: ($16.25, 1 players)
meeloche bets $12, Hero folds

Final Pot: $16.25

meeloche wins $27.45 ( won +$7.45 )
Hero lost -$8


I think ur gonna say raise flop / get it in, but i didnt think there was ne fe.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG XxStacks60xX ($139.70)
UTG+1 Hero ($64.50)
CO ification ($47.75)
BTN TwoSmeets ($50.00)
SB XTR1000 ($104.60)
BB Poker_Muzz ($90.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Poker_Muzz raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.25, 2 players)
Poker_Muzz bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

Turn: ($22.25, 2 players)
Poker_Muzz bets $15, Hero calls $15

River: ($52.25, 2 players)
Poker_Muzz checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $52.25
Hero shows:
Poker_Muzz shows:

Poker_Muzz wins $49.70 ( won +$23.70 )
Hero lost -$26

[mcatdog]

Yeah I agree they were totally butchered. I'm open for anything. I'm actually doing OK against most passive fish at this level but I was so clearly the worst player among this group it wasn't even funny.

It happens to everyone sometimes that we misjudge someone's range on the turn or the river and make a mistake because of this. The first TT hand is a good example. But the second TT hand and the 88 hand are so terrible that they just show a fundamental lack of knowledge of how to play against aggressive players. I'm not sure you understand why these hands were butchered because if you did you would never have played them this way. Just telling you because you seem like a cool guy who takes criticism well.

TT - if you think SB's range is weak enough to call here preflop then you should probably 4bet small and call a shove from SB, and either call or fold to UTG+1. Betting $12.50 on the flop is silly because your hand looks ridiculously strong and I don't think a worse hand ever gives you action. Either check or bet like $5.

88 - call preflop almost always. If you think he's going to get stupidly out of line vs a 3bet then 3bet and shove over a 4bet. Flatting the 4bet with 88 is just horrible. I would recommend never flatting 4bets until you really know what you're doing.

[Robb]

I would recommend never flatting 4bets until you really know what you're doing.

^^^Note to self.

BTW, baudib, I would have been sooooo out of my depth in that game, too. I think it's awesome you sat in on that game and tried to learn something. I'll probably get my ass whoopin' in a coupla weeks (if this gets going regularly) and then be in the same boat.

[BigPapi]

I'm probably up for a game this sunday (Stars/euro friendly time)

[mcatdog]

BTW, baudib, I would have been sooooo out of my depth in that game, too. I think it's awesome you sat in on that game and tried to learn something. I'll probably get my ass whoopin' in a coupla weeks (if this gets going regularly) and then be in the same boat.

I think it's definitely a good idea once in awhile to play in a game where you get your ass kicked (as long as you can afford the stakes) and use the experience to get better, but you have to at least have some kind of a clue what you're doing wrong. If you're getting killed and don't even know why, that won't help you much.

[meeloche]

My questionable hands. Plz comment. This is my first hand. Fold against meelocche?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO sankers ($50.00)
BTN Hero ($50.25)
BB meeloche ($50.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 3 players) Hero is BTN
sankers folds, Hero raises to $1.50, huh,reraise? folds, meeloche calls $1

Flop: ($3.25, 1 players)
meeloche checks, Hero bets $2, meeloche raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($16.25, 1 players)
meeloche checks, Hero checks

River: ($16.25, 1 players)
meeloche bets $12, Hero folds

Final Pot: $16.25

meeloche wins $27.45 ( won +$7.45 )
Hero lost -$8


I think ur gonna say raise flop / get it in, but i didnt think there was ne fe.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG XxStacks60xX ($139.70)
UTG+1 Hero ($64.50)
CO ification ($47.75)
BTN TwoSmeets ($50.00)
SB XTR1000 ($104.60)
BB Poker_Muzz ($90.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Poker_Muzz raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.25, 2 players)
Poker_Muzz bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

Turn: ($22.25, 2 players)
Poker_Muzz bets $15, Hero calls $15

River: ($52.25, 2 players)
Poker_Muzz checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $52.25
Hero shows:
Poker_Muzz shows:

Poker_Muzz wins $49.70 ( won +$23.70 )
Hero lost -$26

1) Hard for me to comment but once you call the flop your hand is pretty face up. Turn is the interesting spot on this hand on whether or not it's a bet since my range is filled with big draws.

2) You have to raise this flop and get it in. You have too much equity not to. Embrace variance.

[baudib]

Yeah I agree they were totally butchered. I'm open for anything. I'm actually doing OK against most passive fish at this level but I was so clearly the worst player among this group it wasn't even funny.

It happens to everyone sometimes that we misjudge someone's range on the turn or the river and make a mistake because of this. The first TT hand is a good example. But the second TT hand and the 88 hand are so terrible that they just show a fundamental lack of knowledge of how to play against aggressive players. I'm not sure you understand why these hands were butchered because if you did you would never have played them this way. Just telling you because you seem like a cool guy who takes criticism well.

TT - if you think SB's range is weak enough to call here preflop then you should probably 4bet small and call a shove from SB, and either call or fold to UTG+1. Betting $12.50 on the flop is silly because your hand looks ridiculously strong and I don't think a worse hand ever gives you action. Either check or bet like $5.

88 - call preflop almost always. If you think he's going to get stupidly out of line vs a 3bet then 3bet and shove over a 4bet. Flatting the 4bet with 88 is just horrible. I would recommend never flatting 4bets until you really know what you're doing.

Thanks, I appreciate it. At these stakes (I only occasionally play 6-max anyway) BTN hardly ever calls the 3bet and no one ever 4bet bluffs. This game was so wildly more aggressive than anything I ever see at NL50/25 I was totally lost most of the time.

[BigLRIP]

I'm in if there is a next time.