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    Default Three 50nl hands

    Hopefully some of these are a little more interesting:

    Hand 1

    Villain is 45/5 at this stage (not a huge sample). 0% fold to cbet (7 chances). I've seen her limp QQ utg and call a turn bet on an A and then v'bet river a standard amount when checked to.



    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (UTG) ($53)
    MP ($55.80)
    CO ($26.95)
    Button ($68.25)
    SB ($52.75)
    BB ($57.20)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, 2
    Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, 4 folds

    Flop: ($4.25) 8, 7, A (2 players)
    Hero bets $3, MP calls $3

    Turn: ($10.25) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, MP calls $7

    River: ($24.25) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75

    Total pot: $33.75


    Soo many draws I felt there was plenty of value on turn, and small river bet seemed more likely to be a busted draw, or even something like 8X based on history.



    Hand 2

    Villain is 19/16 over almost 400 hands, and I mustnt have seen anything interesting from him because I have no notes. 10% 3bet and around 50% bet when checked to by PFR.


    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (MP) ($52.30)
    CO ($41.55)
    Button ($35.55)
    SB ($49.50)
    BB ($76.50)
    UTG ($48.70)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 2, 2
    1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

    Flop: ($4) 9, 9, Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($4) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.25, Hero raises $6, SB raises $11, Hero raises $44.55 (All-In), SB calls $34.50 (All-In)

    River: ($99.50) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $99.50


    I think this is standard. Whilst QQ, 99 are in his range (maybe not QQ given his 3bet %) stuff like 89,9T,AQ,KQ are more likely. Should I c-bet this flop? I cant work out if its a good or bad place. Am I right that I can be happy stacking off on this turn? I dont need to play slower to keep his range wider?


    Hand 3

    Villain is 16/11 over 100+ hands. Doesnt seem to have been 3-bet in that sample ever. Has raised flop cbets 2 out of 3 hands seen.

    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (SB) ($50.25)
    BB ($50)
    UTG ($73.15)
    MP ($48.50)
    CO ($161)
    Button ($29.50)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
    UTG bets $1.75, 3 folds, Hero raises $6, 1 fold, UTG calls $4.50

    Flop: ($13) 6, A, 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, UTG raises $14, Hero calls $7

    Turn: ($41) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    River: ($41) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks

    Total pot: $41


    Man, I hate KK oop on A high flop. I just think I face bluffs a lot if I check. I may well fold to a proper raise, but not this minraise. Then I noticed (yes bad planning), that we end up with less than psb left. My plan is to c/c a shove on turn or river. Even though its only 3 times and all in std pots, not 3-bet pots, I think based on those stats she's bluffing enough times to be profitable. Is that bad? Given I have no reads other than those limited stats?
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    1) yea std
    2) good std
    3) prolly has AT/AJ kind of guy that wanna price showdowns by raising flops, i wanna fold to his flop minraise hes way too nitty to ever bluff here
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    In hand 1 can we ever c/r? I probably just call though, he has a pretty tight range.
    In hand 2 can we really expect villain to show up with 9x OOP?
    Hand 3 I guess he can be doing this with random PP but I'd never expect him to have as weak of an Ax as alexos states.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    3. You flat QQ and JJ to a tagg button raise, but you 3bet KK from the sb vs a tight utg open. balance is obviously not a huge deal at 50nl, but do you realize how RIDICULOUSLY exploitable you are playing?
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    Well, I'm changing that.

    I agree with both comments, at 50nl they're not adjusting, but is is exploitable, and bad.

    Thats why I'm posting so many hands now, I realise my game has a number of issues that need fixing.


    Noone puts him on a bluff in hand 3? I really dont expect him to turn up with an AT/AJ type hand here, so its AA/AK/Set or some form of bluff (quite possibly turning PP into one), and although its a small sample, he seems to like raising cbets and its only a min-raise.
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    Here's my thinking. He has an obviously extremely tight range but ours should seem tighter (he's a nit/UTG raise and we 3bet OOP). We can't really get too good of a read of how he acts with cbets after only 4, especially when we don't know his reactions in 3bet pots postflop. What sucks is that at these stakes I see people call preflop with all PP sometimes while others don't so it's hard to put him on a good range. AK would normally get it in preflop but then again he is nitty with his vpip/pfr. We have 2 K blockers vs. AK so that hand is a lot less unlikely as well. I doubt he ever has AQ too but it's weird to see him ever want to raise this flop and not fire anymore. I'm guess it's nitty to just fold to the flop raise?
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    Seems like a big leak to fold KK to a minraise on an A high flop, but I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    Seems like a big leak to fold KK to a minraise on an A high flop, but I dunno.
    But that's just like generalizing everything. If we can include more hands in his range than AK or whatever then yeah it's a huge leak.
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    We can maybe squeeze something like AQs in there, but doubtful. People really are tight in this spot I think. AK, PPs with maybe some higher SCs.

    Thats generalising, but I gave specifics already. This guys shown a propensity to raise cbets in a small sample, and he doesnt have many combos that beat us here, and all he did is min-raise.
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    Yeah I can agree with your last paragraph but still it's a really small sample. Postflop you need a ton of hands on. But he should never have any SC but AK here.
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    Results if anyone cares:

    1. A7o for flopped 2P played strange.

    2. 99 for f'ing quads but we crush his range I think

    3. 55 for a bluff, but still undecided if my play was good.
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    How come I'm the only one who thinks we are dominated by his range is hand 2?
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    Whats his range?
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    His calling range is quads and full houses only
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    You think he folds trips there?
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    I don't think he ever has trips here. He's OOP and called PF. I don't put SC with 9s in there.
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    ru guys really arguing about the Q992 hand, cuz if so, luls
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    The guy has 10% 3-bet, so do you really put QQ in his range much? Other than that, we're left with one 99 hand. I could see perhaps a SC, or even a slowplayed AA/KK. I dunno, he just has so few nut hands in his range.
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    Hand 1 is fine I guess.

    In hand 2, just muck when he bets into you on the turn. You don't even have quads.

    There isn't much reason to bet the flop in hand 3. If you're worried about getting bluffed, then call if he bets.

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